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Sure Fire
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: Not Available
Coverstock: R2Sâ„¢ Hybrid
Weight Block: Inverted Twin-Vâ„¢
Ball Color: Black/Copper All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
Ball Finish: 4000-grit Abralon
RG Differential: 0.050 (Med-High Flare) on a scale of .000-.080 Low Flare-High Flare
RG Average: 2.54 (Med-Low) on a scale of 2.43-2.80 Very Low-High Break Point
Recommended Lane Conditions: Medium Oil

 

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2007, 06:43:16 AM »
i had just purchased the new "sure fire" from storm's "fire line". the name of this ball says it all. i was throwing on a synthetic lane with 38 feet of oil, a house shot that was similar to the scorpion pattern. this ball has a very smooth roll in the mid-lane and has a very surprising break to the pocket, this ball is very similar to the "spit fire" but it's alot more stronger and tighter with the new "R2S Hybrid" cover stock. Storm did another nice job with there products. This ball is definitly the "spit fire" meets the "special agent". Its a sure fire buy.
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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 11:17:10 PM »

    Just drilled the sure fire for myself before league didn't get to throw but one practice ball. I'm a high rev. player with 15 to 16 ball speed so i have had to use the sarge grip for the last couple years but decided to give a full span a try. Well WOW this ball is forgiving started off playing 10 out to 5 and ran front 9 before a 10 pin and ended up with a 279. As the shot broke down bumped inside and played the dots to the ditch came back with a solid game and a solid high 700 set. I think this is going to be one of the best storm balls, it's by far the best hybid.

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2007, 07:13:31 PM »
I drilled my Sure Fire with a 3 1/2 by 3 layout with a hole on my axis and boy oh boy was I surprised with the amount of continuation I was still getting with the strong, early drilling.  It is extremely clean through the front and very predictable in the back.  I consider myself a tweener with an avarage rev rate.  I like this ball on the shorter patterns like the Cheetah, and Viper.


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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 02:33:43 PM »
I drilled this ball a couple weeks ago.  I did a 5 x 3 drilling with the pin a little right above my fingers.  When I first threw this ball it is very predictable in the midlanes.   I used this ball on a 37 foot modified sport pattern on guardian.  It was very strong in the midlanes and continues in the back.  The next day I put Storm's step 2 finishing compound on it and it went through the front a lot cleaner.  It also tamed down the midlane reaction a little bit so I can use it on a fresh medium oil pattern.

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2007, 12:12:31 PM »
Sure Fire Layout:
PAP: 5 1/2"
Pin: 3 to 3.5"
Pounds: 15lbs.
Layout: Pin drilled in ring finger, 5" from PAP. CG slightly swung out. Weight hole drilled on VAL.
Surface: 4000 abralon w/Magic Shine polish


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It's been about 2 years since I've last owned a Storm ball (Triple Xtreme and Sky Bolt) and I was in need of a very good benchmark ball as well as one that can cut through the carrydown and still hit the pocket well without all the aggressiveness. So I picked up a Sure Fire, it was used one but with very little games on it.

Tried this bad boy out on wood lanes on a open bowling night just to get a feel for it. The lane were slightly broken down from a previous league but enough to use the Sure Fire on. I couldn't believe how smooth this ball rolls down the lane and it's able to get through the heads with ease. The length was decent but the breakpoint was definitely stronger and earlier than I anticipated. I started to play a direct line down the 10-12 board and it was able to move to the pocket with ease, at times it went brooklyn when it reached the backend. After a few games, I moved more toward the 18 board and played inside so that my breakpoint would be around the 8-10 board. There I was able to find more oil on the middle of the lane to get the ball to move further down. The Sure Fire has a very controllable and predictable motion once it reaches the backend using that line. That enabled for me to not have to force the ball down there but at the same time being careful with keeping my hand behind the ball. Any type of over-rotation or early release will send this ball past the pocket and leave alot of 6,10 pins.

The past two weeks, I used it for league and as a benchmark ball, it reads the lanes very well. I can tell instantly with this ball whether to adjust with my line or switch to a stronger ball. In one league, they put out a 41ft. THS which is longer than normal. I was still able to play the Sure Fire on a direct line but a slower ball speed or higher revs was needed. By the third game, I had to move to the 18 board once the lanes started to dry out and my shots then were more consistent and the carry was phenomenal! My higher games were from moving toward the middle of the lane.

The other league, had a shorter length THS but the backends were way different in this house. The Sure Fire instantly jumped to the left once it down the dry area even though I played that same direct line. By the third game, I once again found myself moving toward the 18 board and with the same results as before, better games and more pins flying everywhere. Plus, this baby has no problem getting to the pocket when it comes to carrydown even with the polish on it.

This ball is exactly what I've been looking for to have for leagues and as a benchmark ball. It reminds me of the RXS300 but stronger on the midlanes, and the ball motion also seems similar to the Action by Columbia. One of the more better medium oil balls that I've owned so far.
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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2007, 12:55:09 PM »

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I drilled one of these to try out via the PBA offer.

Lay Out: 4.5" from PAP (just barely clipped the pin drilling this above my ring finger), 50* angle to PAP & 45* angle to the VAL. For my high track, this almost like putting the pin under. I put a weight hole on my axis after I threw it for a few games so to leave the dynamics alone.

Surface: I have left it box which is 4000 abr.

Purpose: To give myself a ball that I might be able to be used as a benchmark ball to read the lanes with, but also with some control so that I could use on medium to shorter oil distance/medium volume patterns.

Observations: I have used this on a couple of house patterns and also on our PBA Experience league patterns. I used it on the Viper on Pro-Anvilane, this ball was smooth on the back with solid motion. It had a pretty good motion as long as I kept it online. This ball is more control than snap.

Final thoughts: I see a lot of versatility potential in this ball and I would like to throw this on a couple of more medium/longer PBA/tournament patterns to see what can this ball can really do. I would imagine with surface tweaks, it could handle a little more volume. On house patterns, this is a great ball to control the over/under as it doesn't jerk off the dry as hard as other pieces. It lets you keep the ball in play after they have went thru the open up transition. This one is a keeper from Storm for players looking for predictability and control.

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2007, 10:16:10 PM »
Ball Wieght: 15
Top Wieght:2.5 oz
Pin Placement: 3-3.5
Hand: Right
Drilling: Modified Storm layout 1 (pin is perpendicular to ring finger)
Surface: Came at box finsh


The SureFire is a sure surprise for a mid range price ball, better believe this ball can contend with the best of them when it comes to heavy to lite med conditions. The drilling makes this ball very angular and for something so angular it finishes as if it never lost any of this energy at all, its not a "hook monster" or "board coverer" but its very even and when it encounters  friction is does not bite hard its just a smooth arc roll over. I haven't played surface god with it but it works great with the finish its at currently, this piece is a beast. Its a sure bet that the SureFire will give you alot of bang for your buck.


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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2008, 06:21:55 AM »
I drilled this ball negative, pin over my ring finger and kicked the cg out towards my axis point. I kept the cover the same, this ball is good it rolls up in the mid lane and has a good back end. The only problem I have is if I miss hitting it at the bottom of my swing the ball won't even attempt to try and check up.

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 02:55:28 AM »
I've used Ebonite and Lane Masters in the Past but having watched the success (Meaning Quality and not Bowling Scores) friends and family have had with Storm balls I thought I would look at their line for my latest purchase.

Well, I set out to find a ball that would fit my stroker style, rev rate and speed...  Every place I turned either directed me toward the T-Road Pearl or the Sure Fire which I ultimately ended up buying.  

My Sure Fire is 14 Lbs with 3 Oz Top Weight with Drilling Pattern #3 for a more even arc throughout the lane.  

First let me say that in the past my lack of experience led me to choose balls based on reputation rather than what fit my bowling style so I would throw with a Lane Masters Kong (This sucker packs a punch in the back end) or the Ebonite Total NV (Way too aggressive for anything less than Medium-Heavy Oil Conditions)...

With the disclaimer out of the way let me say that I kept going back to my NV when I first bought this ball but that was basically because the NV was drilled to go long and strong whereas the Sure Fire was a consistent arc; over the past couple weeks I've begun to appreciate this ball more and more as the light through medium lane conditions (typical house patterns) are absolutely perfect for this ball.  

Anyway, what I'm really trying to say is that this ball has introduced a sense of consistency to my game and really helped me to get better control over my reads so I can make adjustments faster.  Since going to this ball my average has gone up by about 50 or 60 pins per game and if I'm not getting strikes then I'm typically getting easy spares (10 pin or 6 and 10 pin, which I hit 29x out of 30 but I understand these aren't easy for everyone) but my strikes have easily out numbered my spares by 3 or 4 to 1.

What am I saying, This Ball Rocks and if you're looking for something with good reaction, greating hitting power (from 15 MPh on up) then don't rule this ball out because it might be a better option than a Black Widow or NV line for some people.    

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 09:24:36 PM »
Sure Fire Layout
16 lbs.
4 - 4 1/2 pin
3.74 oz top wt.

Ball was drilled at 5 1/2 x 3 1/2.  Pin above ring finger.

What I have seen so far in my first few series with this ball(with this layout) was a ball that can be played up the track area with a very smooth arc to the pocket.  I have also been able to move left and swing this ball out and it makes a nice move to the pocket, very impressed with its controlled move off of the dry.  

This is my first Storm ball but I am very impressed with the versatility of this ball and its ability to carry pins.

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 01:16:35 AM »
Storm Sure Fire

The Sure Fire utilises Storm’s Twin V core in an inverted configuration, as used in the Spit Fire. This means that you get the carry of this strong core, but not the angular “Suh-nap!!” Of something like a Fired Up, Pyro or Rapid Fire. This rolly core design is then covered in Hybrid R2S, providing a pinch of additional length through the front end and that strong, rolly backend motion and carry that R2S is famous for.

My Specs
I’m a RH cranker. 450+ RPM. PAP is 4½ across and 3/4 up. Ball speed is medium high at 18 mph.

LAYOUT

The ball in question had 2.2 Top Weight and a 3" pin. Pin was laid out 5 5/8” from the PAP in the grip, with a strong arc MB position (4½" to PAP). This is another drilling seen a lot on the PBA tour allowing players to use stronger balls on higher friction conditions.

It rolls and hits great. The precision layout and drilling was carried out at Bowler’s Edge in Caberra, Australia www.bowlersedge.com.au.

COVER
The cover stock is 4000 Abralon R2S Hybrid. I’ve played with the surface a little and it responds very nicely to changes. This gets the ball through the heads easily and the R2S as always reads the midlane with firm control. This ball looks great btw. The colour is Black/Copper, but is more Copper. The “Pina Colada” scent is a love/hate thing. Like my Ragin’ Banshee, I love the ball enough to put up with it. My friend James thinks it lovely. (He’s been sniffing too many bowling balls IMHO.) : )

REACTION
I've bowled this piece on Brunswick Anvilane with a very bouncy house shot and a 43ft tournament pattern. Here's how it went.

This ball goes clean through the heads, reads the midlane magnificently, and then makes a controlled move left. This is part cover, part layout, part release. It responds very well to changes in hand position. I can play inside or out with different releases and hold the pocket with small moves. This one of those great “go to” balls when you need consistent reaction.

Without a doubt, the Sure Fire is the most versatile ball I’ve drilled this year and a “must have” if you have a strong release.

CARRY
Overall, the Sure Fire’s pin carry is excellent. When I stick back row pins with this piece, it’s because I’m using the wrong line. When I line up properly, the Sure Fire is just what the name says. For a ball with a very rolly layout, it really does hit well. It often looks like it will leave a flat 10 pin and then simply doesn’t. I love that.

SUMMARY
My absolute favourite ball reaction is strong and rolly. As such, I am really impressed with the Sure Fire. To date, I’ve never seen a bad Sure Fire go down the lane. (Maybe they exist, but I haven’t seen one.) I drilled one for Chris Thomas and he tells me he is “really stoked” with it. It’s the best ball I’ve drilled since the Special Agent and I’m seriously thinking about getting another of each.

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2008, 05:41:13 PM »
Well, i bought this ball a few months back along with a Secret Agent as my first Storm balls. Previously i had only rolled Hammer. Boy am i glad i made the switch. This ball is absolutely perfect for my game. I can start playing straighter angles on fresher and heavier conditions, and move in and swing the ball as the shot breaks down without losing any hitting power or carry. I had mine laid out pin above ring finger and cg swung out to the right. Not sure of the exact numbers, but i know my PAP in 4 1/2 over and 1/2 down. With this layout i get a very nice length and a very smooth, strong, and continuous move off the dry. Not to mention it also flares almost 8 inches! It is definitely not snappy or flippy like my Hammers were. Over all i am more than pleased with the ball

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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 01:10:13 PM »
This ball is one of my favorite bowling balls of all times.  It is very predictable and controllable, with good carry.  It works best on a medium condition, but you can use it on heavy oil by playing straight up between the first and second arrow.  This is a great ball for all bowlers.  When you are searching on the lanes, this is the ball to go to because it is very predictable.
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Re: Sure Fire
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 07:25:12 PM »
My sure fire has a 1 inch pin. The drilling on the ball is pin below the ring finger and the cg about 2 inch from the mid line with a weight hole on the side. This ball works great just about everywhere on the lane. I have used this ball on house shots, sport shots, and the pba patterns. The ball has tremendous carry being it is just over two years old. This is my benchmark ball at all tournaments.  The reaction is so perdictable on on pattern. I have changed the coverstock finish many times. From the box finish to the lowest 1000.
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