Post by: VideoBallReviews on June 08, 2008, 09:57:07 PM
I'm proud to present to you The Dimension Video from Storm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHMPweaRZNA
My Take on the ball:
This ball is Sick...have you ever said to yourself, boy i wish my cell was a little cleaner through the heads and stronger in the backend? Well if you have this is the ball you are looking for. I didnt want to believe that this ball was 4 boards stronger in the backend than the cell, but its true...same continuation, same insane amount of total hook as a cell just MORE.
We are seeing a new revolution in ball reaction from the Storm and Roto Grip camp. They are taking continuation and total hook to a new level folks!
I will be drilling up a few more of these to try surface adjustments and different layouts to see how versatile it is. As you can see in the videos it is quite a bit stronger than the gravity shift...
Just be sure to find oil...this thing needs some volume up front, it didnt mind carrydown that much, but as long as you have a good amount of head oil you will be fine...
As always comments and questions are welcome
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Post by: Dan Belcher on June 09, 2008, 07:04:19 AM
Post by: sbarker on June 09, 2008, 07:51:18 AM
If it is more than the SA, then I know I need to stay away from this one as well for now.
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Post by: Nodsleinad on June 09, 2008, 08:11:59 AM
Nod
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Post by: mainzer on June 09, 2008, 08:19:36 AM
quote:
Looked no stronger than a cell but probably cost 50 bucks more. IMHO only
Nod
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kinda what I was thinking really
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Post by: Dan Belcher on June 09, 2008, 08:21:07 AM
Post by: VideoBallReviews on June 09, 2008, 08:25:06 AM
can i see people having both the cell and dimension in the same bag? maybe, depends how they are laid out and what the surfaces are at...but with all things equal especially on a flatter condition you will see at least 4 more boards on the backend with the Dimension...now if you are on a huge wall there may be some overlap!
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Edited on 6/9/2008 8:26 AM
Post by: n00dlejester on June 09, 2008, 08:27:02 AM
Brit, have you tried one with a pin below bridge layout by any chance?
Post by: VideoBallReviews on June 09, 2008, 08:34:02 AM
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All I can say is I think I found myself a replacement for my Paradigm Passion.
Brit, have you tried one with a pin below bridge layout by any chance?
No but i plan too...i have 2 more coming to drill up (yes i like the ball that much)...i plan on drilling one 5 x 4 with the pin high and one 4 x 2 with the pin low and a hole in the thumb quadrant...i am then going to experiment with some surface changes
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Post by: n00dlejester on June 09, 2008, 09:51:45 AM
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No but i plan too...i have 2 more coming to drill up (yes i like the ball that much)...i plan on drilling one 5 x 4 with the pin high and one 4 x 2 with the pin low and a hole in the thumb quadrant...i am then going to experiment with some surface changes
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Sweet deal man. I can't wait to see the pin down one, 4x2 makes me drool
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on June 09, 2008, 12:07:27 PM
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Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx MR300 on June 09, 2008, 12:11:47 PM
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Post by: earmite26 on June 09, 2008, 08:42:14 PM
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Post by: 302efi on June 09, 2008, 08:57:59 PM
quote:
I wish i could do a video for you guys showing the difference between the Cell and the Dimension on the same lane, but because they are different companies i can not...
but yet you say how much "better" this ball is then the Cell:
quote:
have you ever said to yourself, boy i wish my cell was a little cleaner through the heads and stronger in the backend? Well if you have this is the ball you are looking for. I didnt want to believe that this ball was 4 boards stronger in the backend than the cell, but its true...same continuation, same insane amount of total hook as a cell just MORE.
Sounds like a comparision to me ? So the Dimension is better then the Cell ?
Cool...I'll go ahead and pick up a Lanemasters ball.
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.
Sport Bowling is a F**king joke
Post by: FastTracker33 on June 09, 2008, 09:05:06 PM
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Post by: Dan Belcher on June 09, 2008, 09:06:27 PM
1) He never said better. He said stronger on the backend. I personally don't see that as "better" except on certain conditions (most of which I rarely face) I actually find the Cell's ball motion close to ideal for my game on a wide variety of patterns, for what it's worth.
2) Comparing ball companies to make yourself sound like a big man on another manufacturers forum... what is this, Lane 1/Brunswick?
Post by: earmite26 on June 09, 2008, 10:09:28 PM
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Post by: 302efi on June 10, 2008, 12:16:21 AM
...and Monster Pike, the miscellaneous-non bowling forum is garbage...Nothing but retards that think they have a clue about religion and politics
Dan Belcher, everyone widely accepts more hook as "better" in bowling terms, come on man...Have you been asleep and not been following the direction of the ball market ?
In todays game more hook is seen as "better"...You know the way all compaines market it
Another thing, if you don't wanna compare this ball to the Cell, then for Gods sake don't mention it in the original topic of this thread...I see no other balls mentioned ?..Just the Cell, no ?
As I asked before in a few of the other video "reviews", wheres the bad ?
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.
Sport Bowling is a F**king joke
Edited on 6/10/2008 0:19 AM
Post by: River700 on June 10, 2008, 02:28:57 AM
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Post by: VideoBallReviews on June 10, 2008, 06:26:06 AM
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Cool video. Hey are you going to do another video with your other two that you have coming?
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most likely not, but if i do anything with them ill just shoot a few clips so you guys can see...i will definetly report back with a review of the others tho...
quote:
Another thing, if you don't wanna compare this ball to the Cell, then for Gods sake don't mention it in the original topic of this thread...I see no other balls mentioned ?..Just the Cell, no ?
i never said i didnt want to compare it to a cell, i can talk about a comparison all i want, it just wont be on video...in fact my exact words were
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I wish i could do a video for you guys showing the difference between the Cell and the Dimension on the same lane, but because they are different companies i can not
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Edited on 6/10/2008 6:26 AM
Post by: Dan Belcher on June 10, 2008, 06:57:03 AM
quote:Yeah, the uninformed just plain don't know any better. They're the same people who think it'll be fine to use a high load particle ball on a desert. Quite sad, really. However, the people who actually understand ball reaction know that more hook isn't necessarily better. Hopefully most people on this forum realize that...
Dan Belcher, everyone widely accepts more hook as "better" in bowling terms, come on man...Have you been asleep and not been following the direction of the ball market ?
In todays game more hook is seen as "better"...You know the way all compaines market it
Post by: Monster Pike on June 10, 2008, 07:45:56 AM
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Cool...I'll go ahead and pick up a Lanemasters ball.
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302, Do us a favor & do it then. Then stick to their boards. This is a "Storm" forum board.
If you don't like the Dimension, then post a negative review yourself. It's on the left of your screen. You know, ball manufacturers. Just click on the Storm link & find Dimension. YOu can be the 1st review. Don't ask someone else to do your dirty work.
Here's a link for you, write it up.
Dimension (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=11&BallID=900")
Edited on 6/10/2008 7:57 AM
Post by: 302efi on June 10, 2008, 10:14:12 AM
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302, Do us a favor & do it then. Then stick to their boards. This is a "Storm" forum board.
If you don't like the Dimension, then post a negative review yourself. It's on the left of your screen. You know, ball manufacturers. Just click on the Storm link & find Dimension. YOu can be the 1st review. Don't ask someone else to do your dirty work.
Here's a link for you, write it up.
Dimension (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=11&BallID=900")
The Lanemasters line was straight scarcasm...People that buy into their hype is as bad as the Lane #1 people. The previous owner of our proshop was on L&LM staff and all he raved about was 8 pounds of resin in everyball or some garbage like that... He souned like a bad preacher, that what I associate with L&LM now...lol
As far as the Dimension, this ball actually has my interest, but I really wish someone would do ball reviews on the actual performance, good and bad. Not just a Commercial for the ball to sell it to us. Thats my major gripe, I wanna know what the ball didn't do, or what happened when you missed it at the bottom or when the line spotted up, how did it roll and hit ?
We all don't go out in leagues everyday and shoot nothing but strikes, huh ?
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.
Sport Bowling is a F**king joke
Edited on 6/10/2008 10:18 AM
Post by: Dan Belcher on June 10, 2008, 10:22:00 AM
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I really wish someone would do ball reviews on the actual performance, good and bad. Not just a Commercial for the ball to sell it to us. Thats my major gripe, I wanna know what the ball didn't do, or what happened when you missed it at the bottom or when the line spotted up, how did it roll and hit ?
The biggest problem with doing a review like that is... your mileage may vary. You'll get different results when you miss it off your hand if you have a 4x4 pin down layout while I have a 5x3 pin up layout, or if you have box finish while I have polish, or if you have low ball speed and I have high ball speed, or if you have a lot of axis rotation and I have low axis rotation, etc. etc. etc. The only thing really you can accomplish through these videos is to give you a basic idea of the ball's characteristic ball motion. You can see what breakpoint shape it has, how quickly it wants to respond to friction, how much rollout it experiences when it gets exposed to a lot of friction, etc. From there, it all comes down to so many variables it's not worthwhile to break it down much. You'll probably have better results finding out that information from long-term, in-depth reviews that get posted both on the Reviews section and on this forum in general over time. You'll see how it responds to different bowlers, different drillings, etc. instead of how it responds only to one specific guy.
quote:You mean you don't shoot 900s every night? You hack.
We all don't go out in leagues everyday and shoot nothing but strikes, huh ?
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on June 10, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on June 10, 2008, 12:43:33 PM
Well my verdict is in and again another great ball has come out, had it against the following today:
Dimension pin over ring 4 1/2 to pap cg stacked below no weight hole box finish.
Cell drilled 4 inch pin to pap, mb is 4 3/4 to pap ball is alot earlier than the Dimension does hook as much total but like I said earlier. Ball is a fresh cell with box 1 game of other usage.
Terminator pin over ring 4 1/2 to pap, factory polish still on the ball ball moves slightly less than Dimension more arcy and less of a defined move.
Terminator rebellion drilled 3 inch pin to pap ball glides up front then has a decent backend reaction. Has a good hit to it but sometimes does not finish hard enough factory polished a big jump down from the Terminator and much less than the Dimension and Cell.
The backend is alot like the Break but more of a strong arc versus skid snap that the Break gives me. Hit is way above average nothing under a 9 count and I was throwing the ball ok not close to good today.
Shot 266 the game I used the Dimension the entire game, had a few brooklyn's watch out miss left it keeps on going like the energizer bunny.
Score means nothing but another great ball too me much better ball than the Cell has been to me, have 2 Cell's good balls but for me not great.
Edited on 6/10/2008 12:44 PM
Post by: Sasch on June 10, 2008, 01:47:30 PM
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Post by: Dan Belcher on June 10, 2008, 01:51:07 PM
quote:My Special Agent was my go-to ball for a full year... Until I got the Cell. I absolutely love my Cell to death. It's the only ball that's even come out of my bag in three weeks on three vastly different oil patterns (a beat up tournament shot on wood lanes, a fresh house shot on synthetics, and a PBA Experience league). I'm a speed dominant guy with moderately low revs, so I need a strong ball with a lot of continuation, and the Cell does that like nothing else I've ever thrown.
I don't understand the Cell Hype? My Agents are much better than the Cell. Maybe a good ball - unfortunately not for me...
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Post by: Motogp69 on June 10, 2008, 03:41:05 PM
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Post by: jls on June 10, 2008, 04:17:14 PM
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I wish i could do a video for you guys showing the difference between the Cell and the Dimension on the same lane, but because they are different companies i can not...the Dimension gets farther down the lane and makes a stronger move in the backend...the lane i was on played a bit tighter than when it did for the cell video...
can i see people having both the cell and dimension in the same bag? maybe, depends how they are laid out and what the surfaces are at...but with all things equal especially on a flatter condition you will see at least 4 more boards on the backend with the Dimension...now if you are on a huge wall there may be some overlap!
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Edited on 6/9/2008 8:26 AM
Different companies???
Come on, there all one big happy family.
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Post by: nospareball on June 10, 2008, 11:44:59 PM
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Post by: VideoBallReviews on June 11, 2008, 10:34:30 AM
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Looks much different than the Cell as far as where and when the ball flares on the lane. You can see a very pronounced flip of the core at the breakpoint with this ball that you don't see with a Cell. Not saying that's good or bad, just an observation.
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This is a good interpretation...the dimension does what the cell does in the midlane, but in the backend.
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Post by: Monster Pike on June 11, 2008, 10:53:05 AM
Great video. Tyler Jensen did a mini review in a different thread Link:
Dimension! (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=198944&ForumID=13&CategoryID=2")
The thing that got me intrigued was his reference to being speed dominant & being able to stay firm on a fresh shot. I know you're not throwing the ball hard in the video, but could you see that in this ball for a speed dominant med/low rev guy like myself? I can get revs most often when I need, but that's not my comfort zone.
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Post by: Strapper_Squared on June 11, 2008, 03:14:28 PM
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Post by: six pack on June 11, 2008, 03:26:10 PM
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Post by: VideoBallReviews on June 11, 2008, 04:20:11 PM
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nice vid,as with all you're other vids it was very entertaining to watch!keep up the good work.now for my question,what happens when you don't encounter a friction are outside?
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i actually ran into this the other night (different house)...it allowed me to square up and not cover as many boards...the total amount of hook got turned down a notch BUT the amount of backend did not, it actually increased because it retained energy better... even with some carrydown its like it ignored it...now if you DO want to cover more boards without a free hook area to the right, i think the better choice is the cell, as that will read the lane earlier and allow you to cover some boards through out the entire lane rather than in just the backend.
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Edited on 6/11/2008 4:26 PM
Post by: Raven829 on June 11, 2008, 04:51:37 PM
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Brit,
Nice video as usual.
I have to admit, this is the best looking ball that I have seen going through the pins in a long time.
This is what I immediately thought as well. On shots sent wide it deflected very little, and on good shots it was finishing very strong. The continuation was really amazing.
Don
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Post by: six pack on June 11, 2008, 06:36:40 PM
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nice vid,as with all you're other vids it was very entertaining to watch!keep up the good work.now for my question,what happens when you don't encounter a friction are outside?
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i actually ran into this the other night (different house)...it allowed me to square up and not cover as many boards...the total amount of hook got turned down a notch BUT the amount of backend did not, it actually increased because it retained energy better... even with some carrydown its like it ignored it...now if you DO want to cover more boards without a free hook area to the right, i think the better choice is the cell, as that will read the lane earlier and allow you to cover some boards through out the entire lane rather than in just the backend.
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Edited on 6/11/2008 4:26 PM
good to hear it still hit well on carydown and tight patterns.it looks like it has all the right moves.
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Post by: n00dlejester on June 15, 2008, 04:00:37 PM
Post by: Storm269 on June 15, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
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Post by: ham_chop04 on June 15, 2008, 11:20:13 PM
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Hi that is a great video...but the video shows a bowler with good rev, how about doing one with less rev and playing a straighter line so that straighter bowlers like us have a better feel of how this balls can do for us ? Just a suggestion...thanks !
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In my bag :
i shot a video of the dimension playing strighter will try and post vid later
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dimension pin right of ring cg under pin light polish
cell pin under oob
cell # 2 pin over ring polished
street rod soild rico oob
pluto pin over ring polished
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