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Canadianboy

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Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« on: March 01, 2008, 10:22:07 AM »
I am thinking of getting one but i cannot quite trust the pearl coverstock...
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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008, 06:33:28 PM »
If looking for heavy oil and want to stick with storm your best option is the attitude shift.
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greenefam

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2008, 06:53:11 PM »
Gravity Shift is a good medium oil ball - not for heavy oil.

Storm has a few balls these days that would classify has heavier oil balls.  Look at:

Attitude Shift - medium RG asymetric solid with some angularity
T-Road Solid - medium-high RG symetric solid with some angularity
Special Agent - low RG symetric solid with a smooth arc
Secret Agent - low RG symetric hybrid particle with a slower reaction arc

All are good for heavier oil.  Depends on what you are looking for the ball to do.  For me I like the lower RG balls for REALLY heavy oil while I like the medium RG stuff for medium-heavy so that I can get a bit more angle to the pocket.
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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2008, 07:04:39 PM »
greenefam & bowler851 are right, all good oil balls depending on the shape & look you want.  Attitude will have a touch more back end snap & can be angular depending on layout because it has a stronger mass bias of these oil balls.  Special will have more smoother arc as will the T-Road from what I've seen.  I haven't seen the Secret yet, so I can't help w/that one.  I have both the Attitude & the Special just because I wanted 2 different shapes to the pocket for my house conditions.
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86camaroman

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2008, 09:35:15 PM »
I think the gravity shift would be a great oil ball if drilled correctly and the coverstock was surfaced correctly. Mine is a total beast out of box I have it at 4k abralon now to smooth it out a little. My favorite oil ball as of now is a morich levrg sit it on 5 board and point it a little and just crush em.
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EboKnight

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 09:26:43 PM »
no pearl is for heavy oil...


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RyanRPS

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 09:34:47 AM »
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no pearl is for heavy oil...


Depends how much hand you have...

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J_Mac

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 09:35:53 AM »
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no pearl is for heavy oil...



Sure they are... just add surface!
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greenefam

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 03:29:23 PM »
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Sure they are... just add surface!

 


Correct, adding surface to a pearl ball can make it a heavy oil ball.  But why would you do that when there are so many better solid choices?  If you are looking to buy a new ball and your target is heavier oil - why would you go out of your way to buy a ball from a manufacturer that has so many good choices in that catagory (see earlier entries).

The bottom line is that Storm created the Gravity Shift for a medium to medium heavy shot.  Unless it was already in your bag AND you didn't like the ball for it's intended purpose why alter it?  The Attitude Shift, T-Road Solid, Special Agent, and Secret Agent offer so many choices and ball reactions in the heavier oil catagory why go out of your way to change a Gravity Shift for that use?
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 04:05:49 PM »
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Correct, adding surface to a pearl ball can make it a heavy oil ball.  But why would you do that when there are so many better solid choices?  If you are looking to buy a new ball and your target is heavier oil - why would you go out of your way to buy a ball from a manufacturer that has so many good choices in that catagory (see earlier entries).

The bottom line is that Storm created the Gravity Shift for a medium to medium heavy shot.  Unless it was already in your bag AND you didn't like the ball for it's intended purpose why alter it?  The Attitude Shift, T-Road Solid, Special Agent, and Secret Agent offer so many choices and ball reactions in the heavier oil catagory why go out of your way to change a Gravity Shift for that use?
If you've got relatively heavy, long oil, a sanded pearl can actually work better than a solid sometimes.  The pearl lets you get some extra bite off the dry backend to generate entry angle compared to a solid.  However, once the carrydown gets bad enough, that's when you need to switch to a solid to get earlier roll.
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greenefam

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 08:20:25 PM »
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If you've got relatively heavy, long oil, a sanded pearl can actually work better than a solid sometimes. The pearl lets you get some extra bite off the dry backend to generate entry angle compared to a solid. However, once the carrydown gets bad enough, that's when you need to switch to a solid to get earlier roll.


I guess - but if you sand the pearl down to 500 or 1000 in order to get traction then you will loose that reaction you were just talking about.  On the other hand if you leave it box polish it will be like a sheet of ice until it hits the dry.

Personally I wouldn't do it.  I do sand my pearl balls to 2000 or 4000, but even at that grit I wouldn't call pearl balls real heavy oil balls.  

For oil you almost always want a more direct line to the pocket, which means a rolly entry angle (read solid).  The main exception I've ever seen is the Shark Pattern, where most pros do what you are talking about - sort of.  The typical move is a pearl ball sanded with slower than normal ball speed.  If you are buying a ball for the Shark pattern (going deeper and expecting extra entry angle) go for it.  But for 90% of heavy oil shots I wouldn't do it.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Is the new gravity shift any good for heavy oil?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 08:24:49 PM »
Right, I didn't say dull, I just said sanded.  2000-4000 grit pearl equipment works great on something like the Shark or even a heavier volume Scorpion.  When the oil starts to carry down, however, put it up and switch to something like a Special Agent, Attitude Shift, or T-Road Solid.
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