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Title: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 27, 2006, 08:29:34 AM
I believe the only balls up to now that had the accutread solid and pearl were the

X factor Deuce
X factor (accutread mystic pearl)
Triple X extreme

Any other balls besides the new Jolts and the Hot wire that had accutread?  Leave out the particle please...thanks.

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: thfonz98 on August 27, 2006, 04:40:10 PM
trauma
tour power

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Edited on 8/27/2006 4:36 PM
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 27, 2006, 04:43:13 PM
trauma ehh???

hmmm...

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: thfonz98 on August 27, 2006, 04:46:44 PM
shock trauma too
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: thfonz98 on August 27, 2006, 04:47:59 PM
trauma ER
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: J_Mac on August 27, 2006, 04:57:47 PM
Eraser http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=316
USA Gold http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=1487
Trauma ER http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=42
Ballastik - Kryptonite Super Ball http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=1246
El Nino Gold (ultra fleck) http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=308
Shock Trauma (ultra fleck) http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=1492
Erase It http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=43
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Brickguy221 on August 27, 2006, 05:49:04 PM
I loved that Triple X Extreme with the accutread cover.

Loved the Triple X with the monsoon cover also.
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Pat Patterson on August 27, 2006, 07:01:58 PM
The Vertigo was Accu-tread (SFA) "Special Formulated Accu-tread".
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: monstercrank on August 27, 2006, 07:05:31 PM
he said no particle....the vertigo was particle correct?
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Pat Patterson on August 27, 2006, 07:09:09 PM
Nope, it was reactive, here's a link to it.

http://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/archive-ball.asp?ballid=192

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 27, 2006, 08:30:39 PM
I really appreciate all this information...for some reason I've become a real big fan of the X factor Deuce!

Just it seems cleaner for length than just about any solid I've tried with a good strong core!

I guess the Xfactor is the closest in a strong core assymetric with Accutread(I never knew it was accutread till today).

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 27, 2006, 10:55:11 PM
Jolt is columbia made so i doubt it the same cover, they market it as such but do not believe everything you read on here. The mission 35 x-factor is a pear praticle accutread based ball, i got one and love it.
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: monstercrank on August 27, 2006, 11:09:43 PM
quote:
Nope, it was reactive, here's a link to it.

http://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/archive-ball.asp?ballid=192

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well ill be darned. my memory is already failing me, sorry for the confusion
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: JessN16 on August 27, 2006, 11:27:48 PM
quote:
Jolt is columbia made so i doubt it the same cover, they market it as such but do not believe everything you read on here. The mission 35 x-factor is a pear praticle accutread based ball, i got one and love it.


According to Storm's site, the X-Factor "35th anniversary," which is the Mission, is AccuTread reactive pearl, making it an original X-Factor. I also have one of those.

Jess
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Brickguy221 on August 27, 2006, 11:36:21 PM
quote:
I really appreciate all this information...for some reason I've become a real big fan of the X factor Deuce!


Could this mean then, that you are an "ACE".
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 27, 2006, 11:39:10 PM
quote:
quote:
Jolt is columbia made so i doubt it the same cover, they market it as such but do not believe everything you read on here. The mission 35 x-factor is a pear praticle accutread based ball, i got one and love it.


According to Storm's site, the X-Factor "35th anniversary," which is the Mission, is AccuTread reactive pearl, making it an original X-Factor. I also have one of those.

Jess


Well the card in my box says pearl particle accutread so i dont know for sure and maybe the card is not correct or maybe the site is not correct ???
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 27, 2006, 11:43:08 PM
I can't find anything about Storm's 35th aniversery X factor on their sites.

Their keeps being some Agent guy and a very ugly looking brown ball next to him...
Looks a lot like my Hot Rod Pro Stock.

But if anyone has an X factor deuce for sale or X factor or one of these 35th anniversery ones....let me know!  Smooth stuff and a versatile mass bias!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: JessN16 on August 27, 2006, 11:44:20 PM
quote:
quote:
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Jolt is columbia made so i doubt it the same cover, they market it as such but do not believe everything you read on here. The mission 35 x-factor is a pear praticle accutread based ball, i got one and love it.


According to Storm's site, the X-Factor "35th anniversary," which is the Mission, is AccuTread reactive pearl, making it an original X-Factor. I also have one of those.

Jess


Well the card in my box says pearl particle accutread so i dont know for sure and maybe the card is not correct or maybe the site is not correct ???


Your guess is as good as mine. The only thing besides the site I have to base it on is that it's very similar to my original X-Factor in movement. It's a little more angular than I'd expect a particle pearl to be but that's not proof one way or the other.

At any rate, I love the ball.

Jess
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: DP3 on August 27, 2006, 11:47:14 PM
Hotwire had Accu-Tread too.
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 27, 2006, 11:52:18 PM
Hmmmm?  My mission was to buy an Agent it looked like from their site!

Maybe each person is given a different "MISSION".

As long as it wasn't that double Agent...blah!

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: monstercrank on August 28, 2006, 12:17:46 AM
quote:
for some reason I've become a real big fan of the X factor Deuce!



what you mean this thing??? never had a ball that burnt up like this one...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/balimaster/bowling/PICT0001-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/balimaster/bowling/PICT0002.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/balimaster/bowling/PICT0003.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/balimaster/bowling/PICT0004.jpg

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Edited on 8/28/2006 0:13 AM
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: JessN16 on August 28, 2006, 12:23:04 AM
quote:
I can't find anything about Storm's 35th aniversery X factor on their sites.

Their keeps being some Agent guy and a very ugly looking brown ball next to him...
Looks a lot like my Hot Rod Pro Stock.

But if anyone has an X factor deuce for sale or X factor or one of these 35th anniversery ones....let me know!  Smooth stuff and a versatile mass bias!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Here's the link to the Mission:

http://www.stormbowling.com/intl/ball3.asp?sid=40&doid=3

Jess
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: KCarter069 on August 28, 2006, 08:47:46 AM
i heard the same thing, at a trade show in york, chris schlemer said that columbia will be makin all of storms low-end balls
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 28, 2006, 08:58:06 AM
Monster...I don't know if I can say thanks for seeing that!

Jess...can those be purchased here in the US?

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: dizzyfugu on August 28, 2006, 09:02:57 AM
Well, if particle counts in, then any ball with the Pro-Thane coverstock has also an Accu-Tread base. Balls which qualify here are the Depth Charge, the Eraser Particle Pearl or the X-Factor Ace, and I am sure there are some more.
Accu-Tread was quite common, and nice that it has made its way back on new balls. Great stuff for medium conditions.
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on August 28, 2006, 10:20:10 AM
Even though Columbia is putting together the balls, the materials are still from Storm.  If I am understanding correctly, it would still be Accutread with a Storm  core.  

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: monstercrank on August 28, 2006, 10:21:54 AM
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Monster...I don't know if I can say thanks for seeing that!




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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: JessN16 on August 28, 2006, 11:55:55 AM
quote:
Monster...I don't know if I can say thanks for seeing that!

Jess...can those be purchased here in the US?

REgards,

Luckylefty
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I found mine from a member here. I've seen them for sale on occasion on bowlingball.com or eBay.

Jess
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Jeff Carter on August 28, 2006, 12:33:00 PM
MrBowlingnut, your information is totally off base. The Jolts and Tropicals are being made by Columbia, but they are in fact our cores and our covers. Our chemists went down there to set up the product lines, our materials have been shipped down there, and it is all of our materials that make up these balls. The only thing Columbia is doing is "assembling" the balls.

With our facility being a little smaller, it took a lot of time to change production lines. We were running multiple shifts in order to keep up, while Columbia had 2 extra product lines sitting dormant. This was we can focus on the mid-price up through the high-end and continue to bring you quality products

I know that there have been a lot of rumors floating around about Columbia making our balls, and we have even discussed this at many trade shows. The problem is that when somebody without all the facts starts rampant rumors, it snowballs into something ugly. The easiest thing to do is always ask somebody that would know the truth
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Jeff Carter on August 28, 2006, 12:34:36 PM
oh and as far as the Jolt solid goes, i can see some similarities between it and the Deuce. As another poster said, knocking the shine off of it might make it very close to the Deuce. In my opinion, the Jolt solid is going to be a steal
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 28, 2006, 01:08:01 PM
Well how i am off base nothing like throwing columbia made storm balls huh??? At least someone from Storm is admitting too this like we are idiots on here, so if you say accutread is the same then it is the same. You seem like a pretty decent guy i just talked with Tim Mack yesterday at the west coast regional another very nice storm guy.
Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Jeff Carter on August 28, 2006, 01:15:38 PM
The reason i said you were off base is the fact that you said you doubted it was the same cover. It is in fact "pure" accu-tread, exactly like it was on the previous balls.

I wasnt calling you out, so to speak, its just frustrating when somebody makes statements that can be taken out of context and then it could be too late for damage control

.......and yes, Timmy is a great guy. He gets a lot of grief that he doesnt deserve. People thing that because he hasnt had much success in the PBA that he is an over-hyped amatuer. The fact is that he is arguably the greatest International Bowler in the World. If Timmy chooses to focus on that aspect of the sport instead of the PBA, then that is his decision and i stand by him 100 % !!!
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on August 28, 2006, 01:34:02 PM
quote:
In my opinion, the Jolt solid is going to be a steal



What about the Jolt Pearl?  Is that going to be the new light oil ball of choice?  I was thinking of something like a Hot Rod Hybrid but now I am wondering about maybe a Jolt.

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Jeff Carter on August 28, 2006, 01:37:31 PM
Depends on what you are looking for Fluff. The Hot Rod Hybrid had the Reacor cover on it. It was definitely stronger downlane than the Jolt Pearl. In my opinion the Jolts fill the gap between the Tropicals and the mid-price lines a little better than the Hot Rods did. I just had the Hot Rods a little too skid/snappy in most cases
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 28, 2006, 01:52:07 PM
Jeff,

I note that the

 Deuce  (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=11&BallID=394")

has a high diff .058 and some mass bias...

The

 Jolt  (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=11&BallID=750")

Has a similar lower rg but a much lower differential and is symmetrical.

Lately I have been having great luck with the Deuce...drilled pin up and strong and mass bias in the track.  I have tried this drilling with other strong pearl mass bias balls too.  

I note that these seem to really rev up yet wait in the midlane befor attacking the pocket with reduced entry angle (in comparison to my mass bias strong or mass bias on val drillings.  And in the house I bowl in this wait and softer entry angle is sweet and carries.

When I seem to put these drillings (pin out and up and cg near grip center on weaker symmetrical cores like the Hot rod etc they don't seem to do much?

Sort of lopey and not much.  (I put the same pin position with a stacked drilling and I get monsters out of these weaker core balls but too much entry  angle).

Ideas?

REgards,

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on August 28, 2006, 01:54:56 PM
quote:
Depends on what you are looking for Fluff. The Hot Rod Hybrid had the Reacor cover on it. It was definitely stronger downlane than the Jolt Pearl. In my opinion the Jolts fill the gap between the Tropicals and the mid-price lines a little better than the Hot Rods did. I just had the Hot Rods a little too skid/snappy in most cases



Ah thanks!  Well I won't be making this purchase for another month or so...  I guess I have to ponder this one.  

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: leftehh- LG on August 28, 2006, 05:09:06 PM
Hey luckylefty I have a deuce that I dont use if ya want it.
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: azus on August 28, 2006, 05:25:32 PM
Lucky, i think bowlingball.com is selling some oversea releases.
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: Platinum Bowler on August 29, 2006, 11:51:00 PM
I loved the Deuce...it was the first Storm ball I threw after a few years of other companies stuff, and it got me stuck on Storm now. Accu-tread is great and I would love to try some more things with this cover.
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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: rackattack on August 30, 2006, 02:38:04 PM
Ballastik - Kryptonite Super Ball http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=1246

I notice the core of this ball bears a striking resembalance to a certain patented diamond core and is identified as the OLD Perfect Piece core.Could somebody have come across a good thing and slapped a patent on it building an entire high end ball company around another person's design.
I sense CONSPIRACY here.
 

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Title: Re: accutread solid and pearl
Post by: rackattack on August 30, 2006, 03:19:05 PM
AND

Now that Columbia is pouring both Storm and Lane 1 how long before we see a diamond core surrounded by Accu-tread ?
A ball I WOULD own by the way.
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