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Monster Stitch

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Rogue vs 2nd Dimension
« on: April 06, 2009, 03:36:48 AM »
Just wondering if any of you have both or compared it with a friend who has one. I have the Rogue right now and was wondering if i got a 2nd Dimension that if it would overlap. I know the Rogue is a hybrid and the 2nd is reactive with mica.
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Re: Rogue vs 2nd Dimension
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2009, 10:34:48 AM »
My Rogue out hooks my 2nd by 8-10 boards.
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Re: Rogue vs 2nd Dimension
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2009, 12:28:03 PM »
Are they drilled the same and did you test them with the same surface?
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Re: Rogue vs 2nd Dimension
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2009, 12:41:12 PM »
I don't have either ball, but have seen both in action.

I watched a very capable bowler throw a Rogue in a tourney this past weekend. Though he didn't score well with it, I believe the Rogue is probably the strongest ball Roto has ever made. Since he obviously couldn't control his ball, he didn't do well with it, but having said that, he also had more area on the lanes to play with, then anyone else that was there.

In my opinion it is even stronger, overall than a VG which I have always considered to be pretty strong as well.

I have seen the 2nd Dimension thrown in league play, for the past two weeks, and to me this is a very moderate, even arcing, strong rolling ball with excellent carry. Would probably be great on a sport shot, and a THS.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Rogue vs 2nd Dimension
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2009, 02:00:08 PM »
They aren't drilled the same but they are pretty close to the same. They both get throught the heads nice but the rogue starts up about 2 feet sooner. Thats with the rogue at 4000 and the 2nd at 2000. The rogue is a nasty piece it flat out hooks and doesn't stop. I've used it on some burned up shots and it doesn't seem to burn up in the heads. I shot 298 the other day in practice with it playing 25-10 give or take a board or two at the break point. The 2nd is a good piece but it doesn't like too much carrydown. I can't wait till vegas next week to throw these pieces of utah gold!
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Re: Rogue vs 2nd Dimension
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2009, 03:25:09 PM »
These two balls would definitely not overlap. Two totally different pieces of greatness here.

The Rogue is an asymmetric beast, you have the patented Cell motion, goes a bit longer than the og Cell and is more continuous on the backend, just not as sharp as the pearl. You have a hybrid coverstock helping the ball get this read and motion on the lanes.

In the Second Dimension, you have two asymmetric halves shifted 90 degress and put together to create the Symmetric core, creating a heavy roll. You have a pearl coverstock with Enhanced Traction Mica. This causes that great midlane read without sacrificing that continuous backend motion all the way through the pin deck.

The Rogue Cell still has the opportunity to spin up to quick, depending upon the condition, while the 2nd Dimension creates a very heavy roll through the entirety of the lane. The Rogue can smooth out the transition from Wet to dry slightly better than the Second, because of the Rogue's hybrid cover.

Laying these two ball out similarly, there would still be a noticeable difference in overall ball motion. Modifying the layouts to ensure no kind of overlap would occur, might be best for what you are looking for.

This is a comparison with both balls being out of box, naturally surface adjustments to either would help in certain situations.
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