timw, as I posted just now in your other thread, 4000 is so fine that it will actually take the gloss off the ball. It isn't rough enough to take down the surface, but it will actually smooth out the ball. It won't make it so violant off the dry. If your are looking for it go longer, chances are you would like throw a light coat of polish on it.
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