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Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« on: November 07, 2009, 02:31:53 AM »
I've often been told that this ball was a wolf in sheeps clothing. Not paying too much attention ( and not having too much luck with Storm in the past), I tried other entry level balls from different companies, never getting around to the Tropical.

 Then, last Thursday night, a right-handed friend of mine did something totally amazing and unexpected. Tired of struggling with traditional right hand drillings, he picks up a teammates LEFT-HANDED Tropical and proceeds to strike at will, coming up only an open away from his first 800 series, shooting 766. He said he threw it the week before ( I was out and didn't see it) and shot 680 with it.

 The pin is in his ball track even with the finger holes, with the cg on the negative side of his grip under the middle finger, but there is no x-hole.

  Is this ball really this good? Or, was it just one of those feakish things that happens sometimes? The shot was out normal THS ( which is decent volume ), thing is, he usually has to chase the shot all night, but Thursday he NEVER moved! Not once.  His shot stayed exactly the same all night long.

  The ball appeared to be as smooth and predictable as the old urethane ball I was using, but the difference was in the hit. I hit the pocket just as often, but you could both see, and hear, the difference.

 He's averaging over 240 with this "odd" thing. C'mon, REALLY this good?
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 10:59:31 AM »
I wasn't a big fan of mine, the length was great but it was to jumpy on the back. If the backends were not screamin then it was a good ball. I do have an eight hundred with the ball but it had to be the right condition for me.

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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 01:44:07 PM »
Well, the tropicals are one of Storms strongest covers with there weakest core. The do save alot of energy for downlane
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 03:38:48 PM »
It is a freakish thing! The ball for me, was very unpredictable and unforgiving. Very condition specific, and I never saw that condition! Your friend must be on that "special" condition where the ball is magic! We all look for that combination.
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 04:03:39 PM »
It's a perfect match up of ball, drilling, condition and bowler.  You could take a Tropical, drill it with the same stats and for you, it would hit like garbage.  And I would guess if he took that ball to a much different shot, it would not perform as well.  

I would say it's similar to a 3/4 roller throwing a ball drilled for a full roller.  I've done that on occasion, and the ball did nothing for me.  But I had a friend in college, that when conditions were right, he could pull out the full roller ball and he was just about guaranteed a 230 or better.
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 04:39:50 PM »
What a neat story!  lol

I would say it's a freakish thing, but perhaps it's something to look into for some of us.  

As for the ball itself, I've only seen them in play as I've never thrown one.  The ball seems to have great length with good backend.  Sometimes it can be really snappy because of the ease it has going downlane, but maybe knocking off the shine would help.  I saw a righty stroker using it this morning in league and he was piping it right up the ditch and it worked really well for him.  He had a red/black one and it was scuffed a bit...my guess is 4000 Abralon because it still had no problem getting down the lane.
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 04:44:40 PM »
Had the same thing happen with me when i shot my first 300. Was bowling sooo bad in league one night and went over to a buddy's bag. I throw Ebonite and he was on Ebonite staff. Was getting way too much over and under with my stuff that night. Went to his bag and pulled out a Tornado Warning pearl and proceeded to stuff the next 12 for my first 300 in one of the hardest houses in our area...Was just too funny, and he was right handed....LOL
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 07:37:49 PM »
Many of these "entry level" balls that have offset cores or pucks or whatever you call them can be surprising.

Depending on where the offset is and so forth they can do some amazing things when the pro shop guys thins out of the box with the layouts.

I have seen Mo Pinel do some amazing things with PowerGrooves after he spun them on the Determinator and found their mass bias. The layouts were somewhat extreme and definitely out of the box but they react incredibly well.
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2009, 03:49:09 PM »
Mine like most others was way too skidish for me saved an enormous a,ount of energy and wicked backend.  Really wasnt forgiving due to the high polish hit it too much it was gone miss it just a little right thru breakpoint had this problem with the raw hammer line as well so i tried same thing i did to my toxic.  I took 1000 abralon and hit it with very light polish.  This smoothed out reation and made very predictable had an 800 and 300 with this ball was very good ball for cheap price.  But for me best bang for bucks is by FAR the 900 global link.  Amazing entry level ball.
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2009, 08:49:42 AM »
The Tropical is very underrated. I drilled one up for a guy last season and he dominated with it. HE bowled 2 300's on separate occasions and 843 was his highest set with the royal/lime tropical.

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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2009, 09:11:28 AM »
Will anyone ever face reality???

There is a very small segment of the bowling population that NEED high performance bowling balls for their week to week THS leagues. I am not talking about the classic leagues or the PBA leagues or the scratch league bowlers...I am referencing the THS league bowler...

90% of the bowlers out there will far much better using either older equipment or modern day equipment labelled as "entry level or beginner" bowling balls.

Many of the balls thought of as being duds in the year's past are excelling today because of the cake lane conditions.

I have sold more balls in my shop this season than i have in the past (thankfully) and the most aggressive (and expensive I might add) ball I have sold is a Storm Furious...$145 incl drilling, inserts, slug and maintenance package.

I just sold a Columbia Freeze to my teammate last week. I drilled it right before league. He is a lefty who has no use of his right arm. He basically walks to the foul line, swings the ball twice and lets it fly. He started with 268, next was a 225 and last was a 238 for a 731 series. The ball hooked and hit every bit as hard as his Complete NV and his Playmaker.

Face it guys...many times weaker is better. Weak core wrapped in a strong cover or a strong core in a weak cover are golden combinations today.

Why spend $195 for a Virtual Energy to bowl in league when a $145 Fast will do the same thing? Or better yet get a $115 Tropical and move your feet 5 right?

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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2009, 09:37:51 AM »
We had a young man that is right handed and used his dad ball who's left handed and shot 803 and he's a 180+ average bowler. We had another guy that bought a ball of a guy that was left handed and he was right handed and averaged 220+ with that ball. Both guys could play up the edge of the oil line and it just set there and killed the pocket! I drilled a Track Temper placing the pin in my track and it did the same thing, followed the oil line to the pocket and didn't use any energy until the back part of the lane! It just goes to show that a lot can be done on the THS and you don't need the most expensive ball on the market!
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2009, 09:59:57 AM »
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Will anyone ever face reality???

There is a very small segment of the bowling population that NEED high performance bowling balls for their week to week THS leagues. I am not talking about the classic leagues or the PBA leagues or the scratch league bowlers...I am referencing the THS league bowler...

90% of the bowlers out there will far much better using either older equipment or modern day equipment labelled as "entry level or beginner" bowling balls.

Many of the balls thought of as being duds in the year's past are excelling today because of the cake lane conditions.

I have sold more balls in my shop this season than i have in the past (thankfully) and the most aggressive (and expensive I might add) ball I have sold is a Storm Furious...$145 incl drilling, inserts, slug and maintenance package.

I just sold a Columbia Freeze to my teammate last week. I drilled it right before league. He is a lefty who has no use of his right arm. He basically walks to the foul line, swings the ball twice and lets it fly. He started with 268, next was a 225 and last was a 238 for a 731 series. The ball hooked and hit every bit as hard as his Complete NV and his Playmaker.

Face it guys...many times weaker is better. Weak core wrapped in a strong cover or a strong core in a weak cover are golden combinations today.

Why spend $195 for a Virtual Energy to bowl in league when a $145 Fast will do the same thing? Or better yet get a $115 Tropical and move your feet 5 right?

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I agree with this one. I throw my ebonite boom alot on ths and love it.  Its not weak by any means, but def isn't meant for anything heavier than medium oil.  My brother throws his fast all the time and that ball is awesome too.
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Re: Tropical Storm-C'mon, REALLY?
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2009, 11:16:05 AM »
Keep in mind that the cover on the Tropical was Storm's top end cover not that many years ago. And that the coverstock is still thee major deciding factor in ball reaction
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