Post by: BBock727 on March 05, 2008, 03:35:47 AM
Post by: thestormiscomming on March 05, 2008, 11:56:35 AM
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Storm Shift Gravity
Storm Shift SLT PRO CG (overseas ball)
Storm Shift Attitude
Storm Shift
Storm Shift Global PRO CG (OVERSEAS)
Storm Special Agent
Storm Rapid Fire (sold it because it got a gash taken out of it and because of the messed up drill that it had and i dont like 2nd drill balls i'll have another one soon)
Storm Core Power LRG
Storm Eraser Boost
Storm EL NINO X-it
Storm Team Storm spare ball (blue and yellow)
(two one got scratched so it moves a little)
Post by: StormisComin on March 05, 2008, 01:39:32 PM
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Post by: Mr Straight Ball on March 05, 2008, 03:04:04 PM
It could just need the pores wiped off.
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Post by: BBock727 on March 05, 2008, 04:00:45 PM
Post by: Monster Pike on March 05, 2008, 04:27:46 PM
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im utterly confused. im a lefty, throw ball 17 mph..id say i get decent hand on the ball but i never tested my rev rate. i would say lower side of medium revs definately not high. i usually stand with my left foot on the first dot to the right of the middle dot and i throw it out to the 12 board maybe??? (i swing it pretty far) i used to have a quick move towardspocket after it skid two thirds of the way down having just rediculus carry and lots of messengers. now, my ball doesnt make such a strong move...sometimes it comes back, other times it misses the head pin and dies at the 2 or 4 pin. (oil conditions have not changed btw in the past few wks.) i bowl tonight so ill study it more carefully but i dont think its moving too early, i feel like it just isnt making a move although its revving im sure i need a cleaning. i also know i need to slow down my ball a bit. i believe thats why my 2nd and 3rd games are always better. hope that helps with you guys giving more specific advise i need to get my release and reaction on video so someone can specifically help me decide.
In the mean time, maybe on your 1st game, try playing a touch more outside of where you're throwing currently. You can always move in as needed. Start by throwing it at 10 or 12 at the arrows out to 5,6 or 7. Then go in from there as needed.
Maybe it needs an oil bath? There are numerous posts on here for ball baths. Let BR members know if you need advice, but check previous topic posts 1st as some info will be redundant.
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Post by: stormed1 on March 05, 2008, 09:33:33 PM
Post by: BBock727 on March 06, 2008, 08:35:16 AM
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on March 06, 2008, 02:44:32 PM
Clean after every set with spray cleaner (Power Wash, Reacta Clean etc). When ball gets really shiny from oil over time use Clean N Dull on it. This is a deep cleaning that will return the ball to its dull state. After a certain amount of games, you may notice that your ball stays almost shiny even with the Clean N Dull, this is when you need to take it to the pro shop and have them use the Abralon pads on it if you don't have your own ball spinner.
You have to regularly have the surface set back to its OOB surface. How many games? I don't know but you'll get a feel for it. Once you have the pro shop put it back to its OOB surface you will definitely notice the difference.
I've got a ton of games on my Special and it still works like new. I would think you probably have to just get that thing deep cleaned and set back to 2000.
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Post by: BBock727 on March 06, 2008, 08:00:56 PM
Post by: Dan Belcher on March 07, 2008, 06:05:08 AM
quote:Get a 5 gallon bucket at home, fill it with hot water, and do it yourself. Much cheaper. As for resurfacing, you probably don't need a full deep resurfacing. (i.e. sand down to 500, then bring it back up gradually to 2000) You can probably get away with just a few seconds on each side with a 2000 pad to get a little fresh surface exposed.
whats ur pro shop charge you? ...its 30 dollars just to bake by me. no idea what it cost to resurface. the proshop i use is way overpriced!
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on March 07, 2008, 07:03:15 AM
quote:quote:Get a 5 gallon bucket at home, fill it with hot water, and do it yourself. Much cheaper. As for resurfacing, you probably don't need a full deep resurfacing. (i.e. sand down to 500, then bring it back up gradually to 2000) You can probably get away with just a few seconds on each side with a 2000 pad to get a little fresh surface exposed.
whats ur pro shop charge you? ...its 30 dollars just to bake by me. no idea what it cost to resurface. the proshop i use is way overpriced!
Yeah what he said. Before you start spending 30 dollars to bake it, try some stuff on your own and have them set it back to 2000 Abralon.
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Post by: Bigmike on March 07, 2008, 09:24:42 AM
Mike
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Since this has the same cover as the Special Agent, I can maybe say what I do with it...
Clean after every set with spray cleaner (Power Wash, Reacta Clean etc). When ball gets really shiny from oil over time use Clean N Dull on it. This is a deep cleaning that will return the ball to its dull state. After a certain amount of games, you may notice that your ball stays almost shiny even with the Clean N Dull, this is when you need to take it to the pro shop and have them use the Abralon pads on it if you don't have your own ball spinner.
You have to regularly have the surface set back to its OOB surface. How many games? I don't know but you'll get a feel for it. Once you have the pro shop put it back to its OOB surface you will definitely notice the difference.
I've got a ton of games on my Special and it still works like new. I would think you probably have to just get that thing deep cleaned and set back to 2000.
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Post by: BBock727 on March 07, 2008, 11:38:43 AM
Post by: Dan Belcher on March 07, 2008, 11:40:54 AM
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on March 07, 2008, 12:03:06 PM
Do all the simple cheap options first because I bet it just needs a Clean N Dull and a trip to the ball spinner.
Looks like you have about 60 games on it and it probably just needs a tune up. The pro shop should tell you if you need a real heavy resurfacing but I doubt it. You probably just need it set back to OOB. If you look back at all the Special Agent threads when that ball first came out this is the same cover. Notice how people were saying they had to regularly set it back to 2000. The Clean N Dull is just good for dull balls in general and for deep cleaning the polished ones.
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Post by: BBock727 on March 08, 2008, 11:15:35 AM
quote:quote:Get a 5 gallon bucket at home, fill it with hot water, and do it yourself. Much cheaper. As for resurfacing, you probably don't need a full deep resurfacing. (i.e. sand down to 500, then bring it back up gradually to 2000) You can probably get away with just a few seconds on each side with a 2000 pad to get a little fresh surface exposed.
whats ur pro shop charge you? ...its 30 dollars just to bake by me. no idea what it cost to resurface. the proshop i use is way overpriced!
So i did what you guys said and put the ball in a cooler, added dawn dish soap and put it w/ hot water from the shower for 30 min, wiped it off, cleaned the cooler, put it back with just water and no soap for 30 min. Im waiting on that last part, then ill use magic ball cleaner to clean it up (dont have clean and dull yet).
Btw, no one told me that the hot water would cause all the writing on the ball to melt, i got gluey gliter all over my ball now from the storm and attitude shift wording on the ball. All that crap just came out its crevice and got all over the ball. Hopefully it comes off and isnt a problem
Post by: Monster Pike on March 08, 2008, 12:29:35 PM
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Post by: BBock727 on March 08, 2008, 12:32:42 PM
Post by: River700 on March 08, 2008, 03:27:09 PM
I personally have to renew the surface on one of my balls after every use on an oiler pattern, but, by renewing the surface a little before the next use, it keeps the ball at peak performance and will keep you much happier--------------------
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Post by: River700 on March 08, 2008, 03:29:04 PM
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If your going to bowl...bowl for fun or go home
Post by: BBock727 on March 09, 2008, 06:17:38 PM
Post by: River700 on March 10, 2008, 01:38:45 AM
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If your going to bowl...bowl for fun or go home
Post by: BBock727 on March 13, 2008, 09:09:37 AM
Post by: Monster Pike on March 13, 2008, 03:10:36 PM
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Post by: xxxxxxxxxxxx MR300 on March 13, 2008, 07:58:37 PM
quote:what do you mean by watch for oil and soap residue ... you arent supposed to any soap in it when you do that... any way i have put my bowling ball in the dish washer and it worked really good... NO SOAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It should come off. Some glitter came off of my regular Shift. Make sure your hot water heater isn't up to high, that could also be a problem. 15 minutes is really all you need in the water. Watch for oil & soap residue on surface after each step. Repeat until there isn't any.
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Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on March 14, 2008, 07:30:10 AM
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It could be the fact that you are bowling in the second shift. One thing I have learned from this ball is it NEEDS OIL to react well.
That's what I am wondering.
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Post by: Monster Pike on March 14, 2008, 09:32:56 AM
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It should come off. Some glitter came off of my regular Shift. Make sure your hot water heater isn't up to high, that could also be a problem. 15 minutes is really all you need in the water. Watch for oil & soap residue on surface after each step. Repeat until there isn't any.
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"The last time I saw a face like that, it had a hook in it's mouth." Rodney Dangerfield
what do you mean by watch for oil and soap residue ... you arent supposed to any soap in it when you do that... any way i have put my bowling ball in the dish washer and it worked really good... NO SOAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xxxxxxxMR300,
Reading is truly a SKILL.
He did the hot water bath in a bucket & some glitter & glue came off from the label & stuck to parts of the ball. READ HIS POSTS!!!!! HE was concerned that the glitter & glue might not come off. Yes, some people use dish soap in the very 1st step of the ball bath. See link below!!! So I told him when rinsing to "watch for oil & soap in the water." KEEP RINSING UNTIL THE OIL & SOAP RESIDUE IS GONE!!!!! Thus watching for soap & oil residue. I never said to use soap in a dishwasher. Please post where I said that. Next time try READING the post(s) being replied to BEFORE commenting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.morichbowling.com/Products/Cleaning.htm
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Edited on 3/14/2008 9:36 AM