I would think a company as popular as Storm would have top notch customer service, but I am not sure they do.

I Emailed Storm asking what balls in their line-up have the same size and shape core in their 12-13 lb balls as their 14-15-16 lb balls and I have heard nothing from them, so I will ask the same question here in the Storm Forum to see if anyone knows ... "What balls in Storm's line-up of balls have the same size and shape core in their 12-13 lb balls as their 14-15-16 lb balls?"

Motiv and Lane 1 puts the same size and shape core in all of their ball weights. Brunswick puts a generic core in all of their light weight balls except for the Strike King. Ebonite does the same as Brunswick except for their Cyclone line. In other words, you can't buy a light weight ball in the performance series from Brunswick and Ebonite that has the same size and shape core as the heavier balls in those line-ups.... Thus, my question as to what Storm does.

Looking at their site, the following seem to have the same core in all weights:

Pitch Black (urethane)
Crux (asymmetric hybrid)
Crux Pearl (asymmetric pearl)
Lock (asymmetric hybrid, releasing October 6)

Everything else seems to use modified cores in 12 and 13 lbs.

Motiv and Lane 1 puts the same size and shape core in all of their ball weights.

You do realize that in the lighter versions of most of Motiv's balls, the core specs/numbers are usually no better than the generic cores of other companies?  It sounds like you think you're finding the same exact core in a 12 pound Primal Rage as you're finding in a 15 pound Primal Rage.  Please correct me if I'm wrong...

Quote from: Brickguy221 on August 25, 2015, 10:41:18 AM

Motiv and Lane 1 puts the same size and shape core in all of their ball weights.

You do realize that in the lighter versions of most of Motiv's balls, the core specs/numbers are usually no better than the generic cores of other companies?  It sounds like you think you're finding the same exact core in a 12 pound Primal Rage as you're finding in a 15 pound Primal Rage.  Please correct me if I'm wrong...

You are wrong, as the core specs/nos are better in Motiv balls than most balls in other companies. When I first had serious health problems in 2012 and then back surgery and being told to drop to 12# in 2013, I checked this out with Motiv, Brunswick, Storm, Ebonite, and Lane 1 and found that Motiv and Lane 1 were the only companies that put the same size and shape but less dense core in all of their balls regardless of ball weight, to give the lighter balls the same shape and movements as close as possible to the heavier balls.

The core in a 12# Rage is the exact same size and shape as it is in a 15# Rage. Go to the Motiv site and check the specs on all of their balls and you will find that the specs on 15# vs 12-13 lbs are very close with little difference between them. If a specific ball in 15# has an "xx" rg and "x" differential, you will find the 12# & 13# balls rg and differential are almost the same. If a specific 15# ball has an "xx" rg but a lower differential, you will find the 12# & 13# balls are almost the same.

Go to the Brunswick site and you will see for example, balls in 15# having say.050 differentials and  their 12# & 13# balls will have differentials in the .020 something range. You won't find those type differences in Motiv. (note... I was a Brunswick guy at the time of all of my health problems, but per the example just given, I had to switch to Motiv because of that. Other wise, I would still be throwing Brunswick)


FYI, I have a 13# Primal Rage and it's rg and differential ( 2.60 & .055 ) are almost the same as a 15# Primal Rage ( 2.55 & .050 )
 
I have a 13# Octane and it's rg and differential ( 2.58 & .047 ) are almost the same as a 15# Octane ( 2.55 & .043 )
 
I have a 13# Tag and it's rg and differential ( 2.59 & .038 ) are almost the same as a 15# Tag ( 2.55 & .037 )

You won't find nos that run that close between ball weights in most other companies balls. It appears that Storm does something similar to Motiv in certain but not all balls whereas Brunswick only does it in one ball the Strike King and Ebonite likewise  with the Cyclone

Steven, I like Motiv and have had great success with some of their light weight balls such as the Rage, Scream, Octane, Thrash Frenzy, etc. These balls all have rgs and differentials that fit me perfect. However of late, they are producing few balls with those same rgs and differentials as the balls I mentioned, have. Most of their balls now have differentials in the .020 something up to the mid .030's or so, thus I have begun looking elsewhere and am exploring my options while I am out of bowling for the next 2 months recovering from my back surgery from last week.

When I returned from surgery in 2013, I picked the Scream and Thrash Frenzy to start and I couldn't have done a better job of picking a pair that worked perfectly for me as those 2 did plus a Storm Mix for corner pins.

I simply want what should work best for me when I am able to bowl again, providing I can bowl again. As you are aware, I have some other health problems also.

I just checked the Delirium, and for 13#, the posted RG is 2.53 and Diff is .055. Those are decent numbers.
 
I don't see specs listed for 12#.   

Brickguy - you've got me confusd! 

First you say Motiv's cores in lighter balls are nearly identical to the heavier balls, then you go on to say "However of late, they are producing few balls with those same rgs and differentials as the balls I mentioned, have. Most of their balls now have differentials in the .020 something up to the mid .030's or so, thus I have begun looking elsewhere and am exploring my options"

FWIW, I'm not trying to troll you.  A few around here will tell you that RG does not matter. Certain layouts enhance differential - look into layouts to increase differential into that zone you're comfortable with.  I would not get super hung up on core specs - especially since you are not going for high-end asymmetric hook monsters.  And as already said a billion times, cover is the most important aspect of the ball.

And finally, I applaud the effort you're giving in light of the health issues.  Good luck in your comeback!

A few around here will tell you that RG does not matter. Certain layouts enhance differential - look into layouts to increase differential into that zone you're comfortable with.  I would not get super hung up on core specs - especially since you are not going for high-end asymmetric hook monsters.  And as already said a billion times, cover is the most important aspect of the ball.

And finally, I applaud the effort you're giving in light of the health issues.  Good luck in your comeback!

 
Very good input…..
 
Brick, I think your stressing too much over the core. For my ball selections, I don't concern myself too much unless the RG and Differential numbers are at the extremes. If a generic core still has decent specs, I wouldn't dismiss the ball. That's what I looked for when I recently purchased a 13# Brunswick ball for my daughter. The core is the 12-13# version, but it still has plenty of backend movement.