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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: thewhiz on December 13, 2015, 10:33:15 PM
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Was looking for a storm or roto grip ball to replace my green motive ascent. Any suggestions?
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Which Green Ascent?
There are 2 of them: the Green/Purple Ascent and the newer Green/Pink Ascent Apex. They are 2 very different balls.
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Green purple one
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Roto-Grip balls, even the weakest, are all much stronger in overall hook and oil handling; so they're out, in my point of view.
You're safest bet is either a Tropical Breeze pearl or the Hybrid. The Ascent is closer overall to the TB Hybrid, but the hybrid is slightly earlier, but an excellent overall ball. The Ascent might have a small advantage in length.
Personally I think the Brunswick Strike King is THE closest match up to the old Ascent of all the balls currently made.
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A scream would be close.
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A scream would be close.
Had one; too strong.
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Best dry ball imo if u have a fair enuff amount of Rev storm tropical breeze, if you want a lil stronger Prolly the storm ride. In my opinion I tried most of all companies "weakest ball" and only tropical breeze was what I considered weak. Apex was to strong for me ,Columbia 300 freeze etc... In my opinion of course.
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Charlest I disagree, have both laid out the same and they are the same.
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Charlest I disagree, have both laid out the same and they are the same.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I found the Scream much stronger than my Tropical Breeze.
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Best dry ball imo if u have a fair enuff amount of Rev storm tropical breeze, if you want a lil stronger Prolly the storm ride. In my opinion I tried most of all companies "weakest ball" and only tropical breeze was what I considered weak. Apex was to strong for me ,Columbia 300 freeze etc... In my opinion of course.
Ken,
Have you tried the Strike King?
I thought it would be strong than my TB Hybrid because it had a lower RG and a higher differential, but I bought both when I was having severe problems. I drilled the TB Hybrid first thinking it would be weaker. I liked it a lot for the dry I was seeing.
Then, I figured I had the SK; so why not drill it. I put the same drilling on it. I brought it one day to league just to do a quick compare with the TB Hybrid. Thank God I brought it: the lanes were fired. The SK went longer with more backend than the TB Hybrid. The TBH was almost burning up; it was that dry! The SK saved my rear end. Though it has more backend, it handled the even lighter oil with finesse. They're now an almost 1-2 pair for me.
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I'm not saying it's the same as a breeze, there is no noticeable difference between a scream and accent. Your statement of a scream being much stronger is ridiculous
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I'm not saying it's the same as a breeze, there is no noticeable difference between a scream and accent. Your statement of a scream being much stronger is ridiculous
I saw a noticeable difference. For me, the Scream was equal to the Ascent Apex. The other Ascents are weaker
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Best dry ball imo if u have a fair enuff amount of Rev storm tropical breeze, if you want a lil stronger Prolly the storm ride. In my opinion I tried most of all companies "weakest ball" and only tropical breeze was what I considered weak. Apex was to strong for me ,Columbia 300 freeze etc... In my opinion of course.
Ken,
Have you tried the Strike King?
I thought it would be strong than my TB Hybrid because it had a lower RG and a higher differential, but I bought both when I was having severe problems. I drilled the TB Hybrid first thinking it would be weaker. I liked it a lot for the dry I was seeing.
Then, I figured I had the SK; so why not drill it. I put the same drilling on it. I brought it one day to league just to do a quick compare with the TB Hybrid. Thank God I brought it: the lanes were fired. The SK went longer with more backend than the TB Hybrid. The TBH was almost burning up; it was that dry! The SK saved my rear end. Though it has more backend, it handled the even lighter oil with finesse. They're now an almost 1-2 pair for me.
Hmm no I never tried strike king but I do have a slingshot not sure if they are the same but now that I think about it the slingshot did go longer. I just recently got another tbh I drilled it this time negative thumb weight kinda looks like a Rico layout for a lefty( I'm righty) and the tbh is all skid no hook which is pretty nice. But yea if strike king and slingshot is the close to same I would also suggest the strike king.
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Best dry ball imo if u have a fair enuff amount of Rev storm tropical breeze, if you want a lil stronger Prolly the storm ride. In my opinion I tried most of all companies "weakest ball" and only tropical breeze was what I considered weak. Apex was to strong for me ,Columbia 300 freeze etc... In my opinion of course.
Ken,
Have you tried the Strike King?
I thought it would be strong than my TB Hybrid because it had a lower RG and a higher differential, but I bought both when I was having severe problems. I drilled the TB Hybrid first thinking it would be weaker. I liked it a lot for the dry I was seeing.
Then, I figured I had the SK; so why not drill it. I put the same drilling on it. I brought it one day to league just to do a quick compare with the TB Hybrid. Thank God I brought it: the lanes were fired. The SK went longer with more backend than the TB Hybrid. The TBH was almost burning up; it was that dry! The SK saved my rear end. Though it has more backend, it handled the even lighter oil with finesse. They're now an almost 1-2 pair for me.
Hmm no I never tried strike king but I do have a slingshot not sure if they are the same but now that I think about it the slingshot did go longer. I just recently got another tbh I drilled it this time negative thumb weight kinda looks like a Rico layout for a lefty( I'm righty) and the tbh is all skid no hook which is pretty nice. But yea if strike king and slingshot is the close to same I would also suggest the strike king.
The SK and the Slingshot are nowhere near close. The SK has a stronger, but stilll controllable backend. It was hard to get any backend out of the Slingshot at all. Both were great on dry lanes. FYI I am rev dominant.
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I'm not saying it's the same as a breeze, there is no noticeable difference between a scream and accent. Your statement of a scream being much stronger is ridiculous
That's insulting. Have some degree of courtesy.
If you're speed dominant or matched, I can understand what you're saying. I am rev dominant and I know what I have seen.
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Best dry ball imo if u have a fair enuff amount of Rev storm tropical breeze, if you want a lil stronger Prolly the storm ride. In my opinion I tried most of all companies "weakest ball" and only tropical breeze was what I considered weak. Apex was to strong for me ,Columbia 300 freeze etc... In my opinion of course.
Ken,
Have you tried the Strike King?
I thought it would be strong than my TB Hybrid because it had a lower RG and a higher differential, but I bought both when I was having severe problems. I drilled the TB Hybrid first thinking it would be weaker. I liked it a lot for the dry I was seeing.
Then, I figured I had the SK; so why not drill it. I put the same drilling on it. I brought it one day to league just to do a quick compare with the TB Hybrid. Thank God I brought it: the lanes were fired. The SK went longer with more backend than the TB Hybrid. The TBH was almost burning up; it was that dry! The SK saved my rear end. Though it has more backend, it handled the even lighter oil with finesse. They're now an almost 1-2 pair for me.
Hmm no I never tried strike king but I do have a slingshot not sure if they are the same but now that I think about it the slingshot did go longer. I just recently got another tbh I drilled it this time negative thumb weight kinda looks like a Rico layout for a lefty( I'm righty) and the tbh is all skid no hook which is pretty nice. But yea if strike king and slingshot is the close to same I would also suggest the strike king.
The SK and the Slingshot are nowhere near close. The SK has a stronger, but stilll controllable backend. It was hard to get any backend out of the Slingshot at all. Both were great on dry lanes. FYI I am rev dominant.
Yea I'm also rev dominant and spent many $$$ on trying to find me a dry ball haha. Well not really looking for a dry ball but a ball that goes long and just long on a fresh shot and handles dry
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Charlest, it's funny to say that's insulting due to comments you have made on other threads. I guess if you preface statements by saying you are being blunt removes any intent of insult. In all seriousness though to the op if you are speed dominant or matched you might not see a big difference in storm or rotos lower end in my opinion. I used to use storm/roto and switched to motiv. If I were to replace my ascent I would buy a loco.