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Title: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Bowlers Alley Nick on July 28, 2004, 06:11:21 PM

I am filling in the dry gap in my arsenal. Should i pick up a Barbed Wire or a Sonic X from Rotogrip?
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Edited on 7/29/2004 9:06 AM

Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Jeffrevs on July 29, 2004, 09:35:01 AM

Describe dry.

Either is for 'dry'
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Bowlers Alley Nick on July 29, 2004, 10:00:55 AM

JBTs can get dry, there are some houses that can be ridiculous. Im sure i won't use the ball that much but which do you think will be better? Dry wood lanes are prob. the worst.
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Goof1073 on July 29, 2004, 10:13:17 AM

Nick...   I've tried the Barbed Wire and Sonic X Solid (both drilled very similar) for dry lanes and I honestly like the BW better.  I feel as though that ball gives a little better push and is more controlled on the backend.  For me neither, as drilled, is an ideal fit on dry though...so my personal quest for a better match-up continues.
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Jeffrevs on July 29, 2004, 10:14:45 AM

Nick,

I can't speak to the Barbed, but the Sonic X is NOT designed for DRY...it's designed for lighter, shorter patterns.

If necessary, a Sonic X drilled pin above the bridge stacked would be best, but let me say again...this is NOT DESIGNED for "dry".

Good luck,.....
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Bowlers Alley Nick on July 29, 2004, 10:15:04 AM

Alright so its kinda split right now.. ill wait for more responses, i will be picking one up in a few weeks.. once i decide which.
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Wylie on July 29, 2004, 10:53:37 AM

I personally have the Barbed Wire for my Medium/Dry ball.  I love it.  It is very smooth and controlled.  Very easy ball to read on the lanes.  Like I said though, I use it for Medium/Dry.  If they get to the point where they're dryer than a popcorn fart, I use my Lane 1 XXXL.  But That is a very rare ocassion.  One of my buddies has the Sonic X.  It seems to be more towards the Medium range with more of an aggressive backend than the BW.  Hope this helps.
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Re-Evolution on July 29, 2004, 07:38:31 PM

What about a Sonic Boom?
Very comparable to the others
These are numbers from BTM on the 4

Ball______S__T__C_____S__T__C_________Length_____Backend______Hook
Boom____8__7__7.5___9__9__9___________19__________14__________39
Solid_____7__6__5_____8__8__8.5_________18__________11__________36
Pearl____6__8__8_____8__9__8.5_________19__________13__________38
Bwire____8__7__6_____5__8__8___________17__________12__________39  

The first S,T,C column is on a medium condition, second is dry
S=stroker
T=tweener
C=Cranker

As you can see according to BTM the Boom is the most versatile.
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Bowlers Alley Nick on July 29, 2004, 08:00:14 PM

Alright, I will look into it, thanks
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: charlest on July 29, 2004, 09:35:15 PM

From what I have been lead to understand by talking to several tech reps of different companies about these balls and from using several of them discussed here, the Barbed wire cover is nicely mild, but a solid; its core is not really high RG, so one might consider placing the pin above the ring finger or the bridge in general, and, I suggest adding a bit of extra polish to give it sufficient length to look like a dry lanes ball.

A lot will also depend on, as Jeffrevs said above, how "DRY" it actually is. Some "very dry" needs plastic or pearl urethane. Some "very dry" can use a pearl resin. If you have or can generate good speed (18 mph or greater), then many balls can be "dry" lanes balls.

For "dry-ish" lanes, I prefer the Dyno-Thane Barrage. I have my pin to the right of the ring finger (a length drilling for me). I have also added a measure of extra polish to insure length. Since the base RG is 2.63 or thereabouts, one does not need to place the pin above the bridge; besides long pins are not generally available for the Barrage, not are they essential. It is a resin pearl, with a very mild cover.

Unless you have high speed or are very versatile with hand release changes, I'd be cautious about using any Sonic for true dry lanes. Although they all have high RG values for length, their cover is a little more than "mild". I don't say, "no, don't ever use it"; just be cautious. They are great for light to medium-light oil patterns.

Hope this helps.

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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Mike E on July 29, 2004, 11:09:01 PM

Nick I have both a sonic x pearl and a sonic boom both drilled exactly the same. 5" pin to pap 75 degree. They are two completely different animals.I have to move a good 6 or 7 boards left of the sonic x to throw the boom on the same oil pattern. They are definitely for light or short oil, not dry. They actually compliment each other well in an arsenal setup. Haven't thrown the BW so I can't help there.

                               Mike E
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Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: MSC2471 on July 30, 2004, 11:27:52 AM

Nick: I have the Barbed Wire and the way that I have it set up is in my profile. It's a perfect ball for when the heads are fried as it doesn't overreact as well as making a nice arc to the pocket. I just bowled in a house in Kentucky where when the oil went away out came the BW and I shot my high game out of 10 down there with a 269.

Matt

Title: Re: Barbed Wire or Sonic X for Dry?
Post by: Zman on August 01, 2004, 02:10:32 AM

I havwe the Sonic X Solid drilled 4 x4. I agree it is not a dry lane ball.
You can use it on light oil if you have high enough speed.
I use it on a light shot (wood lanes) and throw 17 mph but have average revs.

If you are a high rev player or lack speed even with average revs the Sonic X without tweaking the cover to me would be too much for "dry" lanes.
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