Really torn between these 2 balls. Both look real close to me. Looking for a house shot ball to cover most medium patterns. I already have the No Rules and Dare Devil Trick for the heavy conditions. For the dry I am covered with the Desert Ops and Tropical Storm. I have the ageless IQ Tour for 1 of my med balls. Just looking for a med hybrid ball to fit between my Trick and my IQ Tour. Right now i feel like just flipping a coin to decide. The Dark Legend is around 40 cheaper then the Code Red. That could be a factor in my decision. Looking forward to some opinions on these 2 balls.   Thanks

As a Hammer guy I saw go for the Dark Legend but what I see on here is people saying how beautiful the Hy-Road compliments the IQ Tour for the medium and house shots.  Its one of the most legendary balls for a reason I suppose but though a symmetric (hybrid) it backends pretty hard.  A real house shot killer and great benchmark.

Hy-Road is a hybrid too isn't it? (never tried 900 stuff but cover they poured on my Stealth Bomber darn good for its era)  If I ever buy a storm ball again (Hammer & Visionary fan but still pay full price for all my stuff) that would be the one.

You don't want an asymmetric is youre trying to fit a ball between the Trick and an IQ Tour. The Code Red is going to be a little more overall shape than the trick. Trick will have better oil handling capabilities. The Black Widow is going to be a bit earlier than the Code Red. A Hyroad will give you a longer and sharper shape than an IQ Tour. You may be able to go with a Timeless if you want some separation but I'd honestly go with Marvel Pearl or Diesel to give you more than the Tour and less than the Trick. this will also give you some separation. I know some will say Daredevil but I wasn't a fan of than ball unless you have no hand or bowl on nothing but sport patterns.

360 is too much on any pattern. Where was your breakpoint that you needed 360?

The Trick was at 2000.  I put 360 on the No Rules.  Big mistake. No rules back to 3000 and I am going to try 1000 and polish on the Trick. Ordered the Code Red yesterday. Looking to go No Rules 3000  Code Red 1500 polish  Trick 1000 polish Iq Tour 4000 dull Desert Ops and Tropical Storm both at 1500 polish. I was thinking about selling the Trick and picking up a Hyroad. I will practice today and see how the trick rolls at 1000 polish. The Hyroad would fit nicely below the IQ but above the Desert Ops. That still would leave quite a gap between Code Red and IQ Tour. Want to get this fixed before we start our Fall leagues.

Yes Sir    Going to try it polished at my practice session later today. Took it down to 1000 and added some polish. We shall see.

On 47 feet, I'd use something that transitioned very fast. In my world, something like an Inception Pearl with a little surface or my favorite, a Dream On at 4000 is what I use on long patterns. You need the last 13 feet to be as dramatic as possible.