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r534me

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coverstock change t-road pearl
« on: April 03, 2011, 06:13:53 PM »
 I am thinking of changing the coverstock of my t-road pearl down from oob.  My intention is to have it go clean through the heads but not go that long before turning over, and taking some of the angularity out of the ball.  Will taking it to a matte surface do the trick or do I need to go a little further down in grit.  I think it's 1500 grit polished out of the box.

 

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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 06:50:08 AM »
Any matte surface is a dull or unpolished surface. Matte is just another word for dull.
 
P4000 grit, unpolished, is usually the first step in smoothing out a too flippy 1500 grit polished surface. You may wind up taking it to P3000 or P2000 grit in the end. It depends on both how flippy it is and what your ball speed.
 
I'd suggest sanding it to P1000 grit to remove the polish, then P2000 grit pad, then a P4000 grit pad to get it to a god starting point.
(FYI if the surface appears shined even slightly after using the P4000 grit pad, then the pad was too worn and was not at P4000 grit. Then you need to take a fresh P4000 grit pad to correct that surface.)
 
Good luck.


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r534me

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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 07:32:40 AM »
Thanks for the reply. 
 
I was thinking that having the polish off would be a good start but I didn't take into account that 1500 polish grit is the scotchbrite pad(I think Burgundy but I have to go home and look) with storm finish 2 over it.  Bringing it up should be the trick.  I think 4k might bring it too far the lane but I can always hit it with a 2k pad if it is.
 
I will try it tonight once I burn up some of the oil on the left side.


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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 07:37:42 AM »
The light grey Scotch-Brite pad is 800 grit US/CAMI ~= P1600 grit (FEPA). That should also do the trick without going as low as P1000 grit pad.
 
(Remember polish is not a coating like paint. It's a change to the surface. A very strong solvent like acetone makes the cover dull NOT because it's "erasing" the polish, but because it has a chemical reaction with the resin and is actually changing the resin, not just the surface.)


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r534me

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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 09:46:54 AM »
Yes, thank you for reminding me it's gray.  I will go in steps to see to bring it to 4k.  Have you heard of anyone trying to go from 500 to 4k on a t-road?  Or should the steps be used to smoothen out the peaks and valleys more?

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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 05:22:57 PM »

 
r534me wrote on 4/4/2011 9:46 AM:Yes, thank you for reminding me it's gray.  I will go in steps to see to bring it to 4k.  Have you heard of anyone trying to go from 500 to 4k on a t-road?  Or should the steps be used to smoothen out the peaks and valleys more?

I have done that and it rolls too quick for me. I have done what charlest recommend and ball rolls really well. In fact I have done that to a prodigy, 2 different reigns, and a reign supreme with excellent results. Make sure you use a fresh 4000 pad because like charlest mentioned it will put a shine on the ball. Also, I used a factory finish machine from Storm so maybe you want low speed and plenty of water on a spinner.
 
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charlest

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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 07:01:30 PM »
If what you want is just an earlier, smoother reaction than the stock "1500 grit polished" finish, then, Yes, you should take all the normal steps: 800 grit (light grey SB pad), P2000 grit Siaair or Abralon pad, then P4000 grit Siaair or Abralon pad.

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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2011, 09:30:16 AM »
Charlest, thanks for your help.  I didn't go as low as 800.  I started at 1k and then went to 2k.  I hit four sides about 5 secs each with grit.  I used it yesterday when the Nats pattern we had locally burnt up.  It cleared the heads, made a little move in the mods, and arcs in the pocket.  I was about 25 to 13 to 8 or 9 and it had the reaction I wanted.   This is on the left side too.  


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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2011, 10:28:28 AM »
r534me,
 
Sorry for the confusion I seem to have created.
 
By saying 800 grit  I was referring to the light grey pad. (You had said above you were goign to use a Scotch Brite pad.) It's 800 grit US/CAMI grading.
 
The 1K, 2K, 4K refer to Siaair  and Abralon pads which use FEPA grading standard (These are normally referred to with a "P" in front of the number. If we all did this, it would avoid these types of confusions.)
The 800 grit US/CAMI is approximately P1600 grit FEPA grade. (There is no actual P1600 grit pad. Siaair does have a P1500 grit pad and Abralon is due for one soon.)
 
Glad you did get the reaction you wanted!!
r534me wrote on 4/5/2011 9:30 AM:
Charlest, thanks for your help.  I didn't go as low as 800.  I started at 1k and then went to 2k.  I hit four sides about 5 secs each with grit.  I used it yesterday when the Nats pattern we had locally burnt up.  It cleared the heads, made a little move in the mods, and arcs in the pocket.  I was about 25 to 13 to 8 or 9 and it had the reaction I wanted.   This is on the left side too.  




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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2011, 11:10:00 AM »
That's actually the second time I wrote about lowering grit when i meant to type raise it up in grit.  Luckily, I only confused other people.  

 

I did that when I refinished the ball.  I took a 500 pad, and then hit it with the grey scotchbrite and then storm finish 2.  I took the storm finish 2 off and put motiv posish over it.   That's how it was unitl I hit it with the 1k and 2k pads, and the rest is history.


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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 05:05:44 PM »
The Step 2 takes a ball to the the Storm 1500-polish finish from the 1K Pad that you used so as a result you saw no difference.   If the 4000 matte makes it roll too early, go 500 or 1000 w/polish, but use something like Reacta Shine or Magic Shine as opposed to the Step 2 compound. 


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Re: coverstock change t-road pearl
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 07:19:52 PM »
Thanks.  I think I found it at 2k without polish.  Clears the heads nicely and is not flippy on the backend.  Just what I wanted.

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