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StormBear

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Need Advise on New Purchase!
« on: January 04, 2013, 09:32:30 PM »
Hi All,

I am new to this forum though i have been reading and gaining great amounts of knowledge and exposure from all your posts.

Details about me: RPM: 450-480, PAP: 5 5/8 and 1/2 up, Ball Speed: 17-18mph, More up and behind the ball release, except when i move in, then it would be about 45 degrees.

I recently got a IQ Tour Edition and it was drilled 5 Pin to PAP, 4 MB to PAP and 2 Pin Buffer. And its ridiculously strong at where i bowl, synthetic Brunswick GS series Lanes. On the house shot, i can hardly use the ball more than 1-2 games. Only time this ball shines is during League where we use a slightly modified Scorpion Oiling.

I am looking to complement my IQ Tour Edition with a Pearl, and i am looking for something that would compliment my IQ Tour when its too strong to be used on fresh house shot and also for the 3rd and 4th game during league.

I have been considering the IQ Tour Pearl and the FireRoad. Would appreciate any drilling layout suggestions too!!

Thanks guys! and Ladies!

 

tommyboy74

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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 10:28:41 PM »
Welcome to the site and hope you enjoy it.

The IQ Tour Pearl actually has a pretty strong backend, and one of the guys in my league has been rolling it a few times so far.  It is a good compliment and is a little cleaner up front.  This would be a good option.

Another option is from Storm's sister company Roto Grip and that would be the Bandit.  This is a pearl ball and a good one at that.  It's more of a true 2-piece ball (just core and cover, no filler).  From personal experience with the Outlaw (solid version of the Bandit), the core allows the ball to hit really damn hard, carries very well, and ball motion is predictable. 

The Fire Road actually has a stronger cover than what you would find in the IQ Tour Pearl (R2X pearl compared to R2S pearl). It will allow you to open up the lane a bit more.  1 person in my Wednesday night league does throw this on occasion but my observation is that the Fire Road will be a little more condition specific than the IQ Tour Pearl.  You may potentially have to adjust the surface more to match your game compared to the IQ Tour Pearl or Bandit.

Overall, I think you would be better off going with the IQ Tour Pearl or the Bandit.  As for layouts, some of the other guys on here would be better off giving suggestions based on your specs.  Hope this helps.

IQ Tour Pearl: http://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/iqtourpearl
Bandit: http://www.rotogrip.com/balls/bandit
« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 10:32:23 PM by tommyboy74 »
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StormBear

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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 09:28:50 AM »
Thank you for taking the time to assist.. :D

Will look at the bandit as another option other than IQ Tour Pearl.
Looks like the Fireroad might not be a good choice then..

Any other suggestions on ball choice or layout will be much appreciated.

Will be looking at getting a ball of choice for myself as a birthday present this month.


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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 11:16:38 AM »
Get a tropical heat hybrids. Lay it out the same as your IQ.You will not be disappointed and will have a few more dollars in your pocket when all is said and done.

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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 03:05:24 PM »
Get a tropical heat hybrids. Lay it out the same as your IQ.You will not be disappointed and will have a few more dollars in your pocket when all is said and done.

+1,000,000!!!!  If you want something to be a go to when the lanes start to fry up, then why stay high end and get a ball with equal strength in the cover?  70% of ball reaction is coverstock.  So if the IQ is too much, then so will the pearl and anything else high end.  Step down and get a ball designed for when the lanes are lower volume and/or drier.  Especially with your rev rate, you are going to need a weaker cover to get the ball down the lane.  I think the Tropical Heat series is where you need to be. 
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tommyboy74

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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 05:38:08 PM »
I read the post wrong originally.  I jumped at the compliment part and didn't realize you were looking for 3rd and 4th game.  I apologize for that.

After rereading and seeing the recommendations by some others, I agree that the Tropical Heat hybrid is a good way to go.  It's a step down from what I originally mentioned in the Bandit/Tour Pearl and will clear the heads easier when the pattern breaks down in the later games.  The core/cover are proven and versatile.  For your game, it easily fits what you are looking for.

One other option from Roto Grip is the Rising Star.  This ball is also a hybrid, similar to the Tropical Heat mentioned and has a great cover/core match.  The advantage here is going to be price as these are being discontinued.  Having thrown the Rising Star, it is a ton of ball for the money and will easily work for your game as well.
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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 07:59:57 PM »
Roto grip wrecker looks real good
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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 08:58:58 PM »
I'd definitely go along with the motions for Tropical Heat Hybrids, you could also look at the Shout (Roto Grip).  I would steer clear of the IQ Tour Pearl, it is quite a bit more angular than the IQ Tour and will require you to move a good bit further left to keep it moving downlane.  It looks great but it definitely will force you to open up your angles.

StormBear

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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2013, 10:17:42 AM »
 :o looks like i am looking at the Tropical Heat Series then... lol.

Thanks so much, hope to drill up one soon and post a review.

Isn't the Wrecker kinda strong too? ( Just a hind sight thought)

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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2013, 10:28:07 AM »
If you want a great ball that blends out the pattern, Visionary "The Classic"
You can play out-in, it's a very versatile ball and carries very well.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2013, 12:02:58 PM »
:o looks like i am looking at the Tropical Heat Series then... lol.

Thanks so much, hope to drill up one soon and post a review.

Isn't the Wrecker kinda strong too? ( Just a hind sight thought)

The Wrecker is replacing the Rising Star.  Same core, just slightly different cover that will be slightly cleaner.
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StormBear

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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 08:46:38 PM »
Here's the Update!

Went to my driller and asked if he had tropical heats available.. sadly, he didnt.

We had a chat about what to drill for 3-4 game shift after my iq tour is either too strong or labouring to come through the carry down.

Wonderfully, he went to his storage and found an IQ Tour Pearl with a 5.5" Pin!! Saying that it was the only piece he had and he had been waiting for someone to be able to handle it and drill it, since most bowlers want Maximum hook nowadays. We drilled it up stacked with a 3" pin buffer and a hole in the "MB" area (symmetrical core).

Wow!! It went Long and i could play from middle or further inside, best thing is that it still gave me a strong come back to the pocket. Not exactly a skid flippy ball, but the messengers that ball creates is amazing.

Not to mention its a ball i kinda wanted but was afraid it might be too strong. And the colour was a added bonus!! hahaha!

Thank you all who contributed!

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Re: Need Advise on New Purchase!
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2013, 09:06:08 PM »
Welcome to the site and hope you enjoy it.

Another option is from Storm's sister company Roto Grip and that would be the Bandit.  This is a pearl ball and a good one at that.  It's more of a true 2-piece ball (just core and cover, no filler).  From personal experience with the Outlaw (solid version of the Bandit), the core allows the ball to hit really damn hard, carries very well, and ball motion is predictable. 

Overall, I think you would be better off going with the IQ Tour Pearl or the Bandit.  As for layouts, some of the other guys on here would be better off giving suggestions based on your specs.  Hope this helps.

IQ Tour Pearl: http://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/iqtourpearl
Bandit: http://www.rotogrip.com/balls/bandit

I love my Outlaw, and IQ Tour Solid.  I detest the Bandit.  The bandit has not been well liked.  For me it was Bucket, flat 10, 4 pin or split.  Very few strikes.  The shape of the arc looked good.  But the ball went thru the pins like a turd.
Just 1 man's opinion.  :)