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joblo1978

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Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« on: October 14, 2009, 12:54:21 AM »
I ordered up a fast for my girlfriend.  She's been bowling a power groove for a bit getting the hang of it.  I figured this would be a good upgrade for her after lots of research, maybe going to drill her first fingertip ball too.

What do you guys think?

-Typical female bowler
-Medium to medium low speed
-lower revving
-Not alot of axis rotation
-Down and in player
-A little lofty sometimes
-Typical house shots, synthetic, mostly practice, maybe some league, but we're generall weekend bowlers
-Needs some forgiveness if she misses right
-Need it to store some energy and not flatten out for the lower weight and lower speed.
-Looking for a good angle into the pocket


What do you guys think?  Can we get all this out of this ball?
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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 09:19:46 AM »
Atcually, i would look into getting a Raw Hammer Burn. That thing has plenty of angle and carries off hits very well. It will store its energy for the back part of the lanes and there is defintely forgiveness if there is a miss right. I have one of these and this ball is the most forgiving ball I've had in a long time, since the old Insite stuff.
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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 09:22:01 AM »
It's a good choice and quite an upgrade from a Power Groove. IMHO, I would suggest drilling it with the pin in a 1:30 direction and the cg shifted for about 3/4 ounces side weight. This layout will work for most anyone and is a "safe" bet until she improves,when you can find her pap and use more sophisticated layouts. With all the changes you are making(fingertip, real core ball), she will be developing a "pap", so don't be concerned with it at this point in time.
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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 09:34:19 AM »
Second the pooh's suggestion of a label drilling. If it is her first fingertip ball, she won't have a PAP to exploit with a certain setup.

Put the CG in her palm, about 1/2" shifted towards PAP, and put the pin in a 30-45° degree from there towards the positive side, and in a safe area concerning the finger holes. No balance hole should be necessary. A 3-4" pin ball should end up with the pin in a pretty strong position next to or maybe even above the finger holes for some length.

This layout works for everyone and should yield some serious hook - rather arcing with a good end roll, a very good start for fingertip bowling.
From there, surface changes should tune the ball's utility, ut with its OOB polish it should already be "enough" even for higher oil volumes as long as the back end is clean.
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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 10:48:21 AM »
Yeah, ditto what everyone has said.  The Fast is obviously a step up from entry level but it's not a huge step, like say a Virtual and the price is pretty good.  Maybe with that she'll take her cofidence & bowling to the next level & she'll want to join a more competitive league, maybe w/her gal friends.  I think it's a good choice.
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joblo1978

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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 11:12:43 AM »
Thanks for all the responses guys.  Anyone got a diagram to post up?
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joblo1978

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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 11:19:02 AM »
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J_Mac

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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 11:31:31 AM »
Why don't you ask the individual drilling the ball, they might have valuable input on this as well...
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joblo1978

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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 11:50:15 AM »
I never said that I wouldn't.  There's valuable input here as well as there.
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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2009, 11:56:20 AM »
quote:
http://www.bowlingball.com/images/content/storm-adv-3.jpg

Like this one?


Going by that diagram, & what you said you wanted out of the ball in your op:  I would move the pin up about 3/4 to an inch & 1/2 towards grip.  Putting the pin somewhere near just above the ring finger & bringing the CG closer to grip as well.  Should allow it to store the energy but not too much not to turn on the end.


Edited on 10/14/2009 11:59 AM
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joblo1978

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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2009, 12:00:04 PM »
Are you referring to a stacked leverage drilling?
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J_Mac

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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2009, 12:06:26 PM »
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Are you referring to a stacked leverage drilling?


Shouldn''t call it stacked leverage since the bowler''s PAP is unknown.

Pin above the ring finger and the CG directly below the ring finger should give the individual drilling the ball the option to further tweak it''s reaction with a flare reducing or flare increasing weight hole, IF the pin out that you have already bought puts the CG roughly equidistant from the thumb and fingers.

This layout and ball should fit what you''re trying to accomplish, but it might take a little more work than just three holes.


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Re: Drilling a Fast for a lady bowler
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2009, 12:29:28 PM »
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Are you referring to a stacked leverage drilling?


Sort of what J-Mac said.  The drilling in your layout diagram was pretty strong for lower speed, coverstock core combo & the conditions she'll be facing, in my opinion.  All w/out knowing the exact PAP.  Like J-Mac said, this will be a good starting point & the cover can be tweaked &/or a weight hole being placed somewhere to increase or decrease flare.  That's when the driller can get involved, by watching your wife throw the ball right after it's been drilled.  If you get it drilled at a proshop at a bowling alley....  He can see her release & the ball's reaction to gauge what tweaking can be done..
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