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Storm269

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Dimension vs CELL
« on: June 29, 2008, 07:42:09 PM »
Anyone here have these 2 balls ? Possible to do a comparison ? Thanks !
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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2008, 04:36:38 AM »
I will be following this topic! This is the question I have to answer in a few weeks, before buying my next ball. I still lean towards the Cell.

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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2008, 09:02:43 AM »
Here is what Jkiser01 said under another topic in this Track Forum....

I had a Cell and my Dimension hooks more than my Cell did..

They where both drilled pin up but the Dimension is drilled a tad bit stronger and its symetric (no marked mass bias) where the Cell is asymetric with a marked mass bias..

The Dimension hooks about 3-4 boards more than my Cell did..

On Edit: The Cell is a great ball and it will move in oil with the best of them but this ball just has a different roll to me than the Cell.. There is just no quit in this Dimension. I played outside 18-5 and then moved deep inside and the ball still made the move back to the pocket with great carry.. Very few 10's..

 

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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2008, 09:13:55 AM »
ive had 2 cells and i now have a deminsion in my opinion with the same layout on the same ths the cell did start eariler but neve made the move where as the deminsion is smooth with a stronger move to the pocket on a shork like pattern the cell was 2 or 3 boards less overall hook then the deminsion
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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2008, 09:28:11 AM »
Brickguy221,

thanks, thats what I was going to post..

For me, the Dimension is much more continuous thru the pins..
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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2008, 11:42:15 AM »
Interesting to read the reviews and compare them with the stats of the ball.

When I try to predict the reaction of a ball I look at RG and DIF and ofcourse coverstock.

The coverstock is about the same. RG is almost equal. The only big difference is found in the DIF. This is much higher for the Cell.

So I would predict that the Cell and Dimension with the same layout would be picking up at the same part of the lane, but the cell being stronger overall.

Every review so far stated that the Cell is earlier and the Dimension has more overall hook. so more flare potential does not equal more overall hook? or do people confuse more backend with more hook?

Every time I think I know a little about equipment, something comes around and confuses me.

It's becoming a hard choice between these two.

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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2008, 12:03:57 PM »
Put it this way if you bowl on a THS You will have no use for either ball without lots of polish, I hated my Cell at first then I polished it with Storm polish and it became the first ball out of the bag on first shift league night. My opinion is if you do not bowl in a PBA Experience league you have very little need for 90% of the equipment that is coming out these days.

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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2008, 12:08:21 PM »
Totally not true where I live. There is plenty of oil for either ball to be used effectively OOB on most THS in my area..

I see tons of Cells being used and am sure in time will see alot of Dimension's..



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Put it this way if you bowl on a THS You will have no use for either ball without lots of polish, I hated my Cell at first then I polished it with Storm polish and it became the first ball out of the bag on first shift league night. My opinion is if you do not bowl in a PBA Experience league you have very little need for 90% of the equipment that is coming out these days.

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jkiser01

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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2008, 12:09:09 PM »
Don't forget about the core in each ball.. Totally different..

For me, the Cell was not stronger..

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Interesting to read the reviews and compare them with the stats of the ball.

When I try to predict the reaction of a ball I look at RG and DIF and ofcourse coverstock.

The coverstock is about the same. RG is almost equal. The only big difference is found in the DIF. This is much higher for the Cell.

So I would predict that the Cell and Dimension with the same layout would be picking up at the same part of the lane, but the cell being stronger overall.

Every review so far stated that the Cell is earlier and the Dimension has more overall hook. so more flare potential does not equal more overall hook? or do people confuse more backend with more hook?

Every time I think I know a little about equipment, something comes around and confuses me.

It's becoming a hard choice between these two.

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bowler851

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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2008, 12:26:08 PM »
jkiser01


you are right to a point we had alot of Cells in our league last year in OOB, but they are mostly thrown by you once a week hack, the top average bowlers in the league all throw polished equipment.(220+ average)

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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2008, 12:30:09 PM »
This is where many people get confused. Almost any person I know that is not an avid bowler, and just does the 1 league a week and wants his/her ball to hook as much as possible. They see a strong backend, so they think more hook. Dimension might move more on the back, where the Cell starts up a little sooner in the mid-lane. Most think Dimension hooks more, because it will respond to friction with a stronger move to the hole
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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2008, 12:49:29 PM »
I guess you just bowl in places with little or no oil. I averaged 220 in my THS league last year and used my cell OOB and also know several other guys that average that and have not changed the surface of the cell..

Just different lane conditions I guess..

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you are right to a point we had alot of Cells in our league last year in OOB, but they are mostly thrown by you once a week hack, the top average bowlers in the league all throw polished equipment.(220+ average)

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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2008, 12:51:24 PM »
Thats not what I want, I want a ball that is controllable and hooks 5-10 boards.. Thats all that is needed..

The Cell does start up a little bit sooner but the Dimension "for me" has more overall hook.. Let me say it again, the Cell is a great ball.. I just prefer the ball reaction the Dimension has..



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This is where many people get confused. Almost any person I know that is not an avid bowler, and just does the 1 league a week and wants his/her ball to hook as much as possible. They see a strong backend, so they think more hook. Dimension might move more on the back, where the Cell starts up a little sooner in the mid-lane. Most think Dimension hooks more, because it will respond to friction with a stronger move to the hole
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Re: Dimension vs CELL
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2008, 01:06:08 PM »
For me Dimension is just a better overall ball, still needs oil upfront is worthless without enough oil last week it was good about 6 frames. Being a 5 man league with 8 righties it does not take much to blow a hole in a barely medium-heavy pattern at best.

Yes Cell reads about 3-4 feet earlier but it just does not hit as well when i have tried both, for higher rev players i can see finer surfaces and/or polish being used. I sure hope they make some blem Dimension balls that end up on ebay cheap, I could see having 3-4 of these all alittle different in surface and drills.

Should have the S75 Break and BW Venom soon, so I will be able to compare heads up and see who the new backend champ is.

Had my Dimension out with The Break, BW Bite, BW Pearl, Terminator Rebellion yesterday and it was the biggest backend reaction of the group with the Bite right behind it. All were within 2-3 boards total and the ball reactions were enough of a difference to see each balls movement. The Rebellion is cleaner through the front and is very angular move, it is also a ball too consider for the same ball reaction.

As you can see I do not love the early hooking stuff and will drill earlier stuff for later revs anyway, pure roll just never seems to hit well in my area here in Vegas. You need cleaner through the front and backend movement the last 15 feet, that seems to work best here for most players.


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Thats not what I want, I want a ball that is controllable and hooks 5-10 boards.. Thats all that is needed..

The Cell does start up a little bit sooner but the Dimension "for me" has more overall hook..



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This is where many people get confused. Almost any person I know that is not an avid bowler, and just does the 1 league a week and wants his/her ball to hook as much as possible. They see a strong backend, so they think more hook. Dimension might move more on the back, where the Cell starts up a little sooner in the mid-lane. Most think Dimension hooks more, because it will respond to friction with a stronger move to the hole
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Edited on 6/30/2008 1:09 PM