Author Topic: Dimension vs CELL (Read 7712 times)

Storm269 · « **on:** June 29, 2008, 07:42:09 PM »

Anyone here have these 2 balls ? Possible to do a comparison ? Thanks !
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Attitude Shift
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Oldskool2 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2008, 02:05:47 PM »

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Don't forget about the core in each ball.. Totally different..

For me, the Cell was not stronger..

As far as I know RG and Differential are core numbers. Yes, the core is totally different in shape, but what do the numbers mean if this shape is so important.

Maybe a good item for a new topic.

Greetings,

Antoine

charlest · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2008, 02:49:30 PM »

This is all actually quite humorous.

This ball is 6 months newer therefore it has to be better ....
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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2008, 03:01:12 PM »

Still love the Big Kahuna, Kong, Vapor Zone, Kinetic Energy better than these others newer balls. Your point is well observed and as much as a ball ho as I am, alot of older stuff is just as good or better.

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This is all actually quite humorous.

This ball is 6 months newer therefore it has to be better ....
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #19 on:** June 30, 2008, 03:07:35 PM »

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This is all actually quite humorous.

This ball is 6 months newer therefore it has to be better ....
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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I think it's also because anything that goes longer and hooks more on the backend is immediately perceived as "better" by a lot of people.

jkiser01 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 30, 2008, 03:11:41 PM »

Charlest, I respect your opinion but..

IMO, how long a ball has bean out is not that important in this conversation..

The Cell is a great pieces, I had one for quite some time before I sold it. I just got the Dimension and so far I like it alot.. Different people match up better with certain balls, thats a given..

quote:
This is all actually quite humorous.

This ball is 6 months newer therefore it has to be better ....
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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jkiser01 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 30, 2008, 03:13:32 PM »

Dan,

Thats a great point and I agree some people want "hook in a box" but for me I don't care if something hooks more or not. I look at overall ball reaction and how it rolls "for me"..

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quote:
This is all actually quite humorous.

This ball is 6 months newer therefore it has to be better ....
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Unofficial Ballreviews.com FAQ
I think it's also because anything that goes longer and hooks more on the backend is immediately perceived as "better" by a lot of people.

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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..

nospareball · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2008, 04:02:06 PM »

I've never thrown the Dimension, but from watching videos of the Dimension and personally throwing the Cell I can clearly see differences in reaction.

If you've ever watched the Cell seminar videos with Hank Boomershine there is a part where he compares the Cell and the Odyssey. During the video he pauses the tape when both balls are about 40ft downlane and points out that the Cell has already flared 3-4in at that point. The Odyssey on the other hand hasn't flared much at all. When he unpauses the tape the Odyssey breaks loose and flares all at once in the last 20ft. The Cell also continues to flare all the way through the pin deck.

To my eyes the Dimension makes a move much like the Odyssey does, lots of flare in the last 20ft and the ball goes sideways. It's a powerful move and impressive, and acts much like a asymmetrical ball. On the other hand, the Cell's movement acts more like a symmetrical ball even know it's an asymmetrical piece.
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-Clint

Oldskool2 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2008, 04:09:13 PM »

You are absolutely right. More hook is not always better. I think a arsenal that covers a wide level of hook and shape is the best. That means for me I need one big hook ball.

I have the Rapid Fire for lenght and decent hook. I took it to 2000 Abralon because it was to flippy for me.

Now I need a ball that starts its hook earlier and has a controlled arc. Important is that it keeps going on the backend. It is the replacer for my Big One, so low RG and high DIF.

It was the Cell for me for all the time, until "the countdown" started.

It is not a question of which one is better, but which I need to fill the gap.

Sorry DC38 for hijacking your topic.

dware300 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2008, 04:11:14 PM »

i have or have had almost every storm ball made and also have drilled 2 cells to me the dimmension is one of the best balls i have thrown so far and hooks more on the back end then any solid ball but also moves through oil and it hits great

Locke · « **Reply #25 on:** June 30, 2008, 04:28:54 PM »

What I have seen of these two balls I have seen the Cell be overall stronger. I think what people are seeing is the Demension having more backend. Especially on a THS it is really easy to mistake back end for total hook. I have seen a few Demensions thrown on sport patterns and have noticed that the Cell will pick up a little earlier and have a little more of a continious arc. The Demension has the typical storm snap to it, even though they tried to smooth it out it is still there. The reason, I think, the Cell is weaker on the THS is because it seems to burn up and roll out on THS but if you get it on a sport shot you will not get that problem. I would say they are about the same ball with the Cell just a little stronger but with much more roll and the Demension is still and Storm and still has a hint of long and strong in it.
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charlest · « **Reply #26 on:** June 30, 2008, 05:20:16 PM »

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Charlest, I respect your opinion but..

IMO, how long a ball has bean out is not that important in this conversation..

The Cell is a great pieces, I had one for quite some time before I sold it. I just got the Dimension and so far I like it alot.. Different people match up better with certain balls, thats a given..

quote:
This is all actually quite humorous.

This ball is 6 months newer therefore it has to be better ....
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Unofficial Ballreviews.com FAQ

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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..

JK,

Your opinion, I respect. I know you did more to compare these balls, but, in general, well, you know the story. People never bother to drill the balls the same or even close nor to throw them on the same conditions, nor to make sure it's new ball vs new ball, etc.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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Edited on 6/30/2008 6:13 PM

jkiser01 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 30, 2008, 05:22:40 PM »

thanks for clarifying charlest.. I also respect your opinion..

To be honest, a person could go wrong buying either one of these balls..

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quote:
Charlest, I respect your opinion but..

IMO, how long a ball has bean out is not that important in this conversation..

The Cell is a great pieces, I had one for quite some time before I sold it. I just got the Dimension and so far I like it alot.. Different people match up better with certain balls, thats a given..

quote:
This is all actually quite humorous.

This ball is 6 months newer therefore it has to be better ....
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Unofficial Ballreviews.com FAQ

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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..

JK,

Your opinion, I respect I know you did more to compare these balls, but, in general, well, you know the story. People never bother to drill the balls the same or even close nor to throw them on the same conditions, nor to make sure it's new ball vs new ball, etc.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Unofficial Ballreviews.com FAQ

Edited on 6/30/2008 5:21 PM

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My first child.. Hannah Allison Kiser born 4/30/2007... My little angel..

Edited on 6/30/2008 5:23 PM

Mike James · « **Reply #28 on:** July 01, 2008, 08:10:31 AM »

Everyone brings out good points on both balls....I use to have the Cell and not knowing better i had it drilled like my other stuff..(strong drilling)...bad mistake...being s stroker and its important to mention that because i have to line up closer to the track area than a cranker does...and yes the Cell grabs much earlier and therefore rolls out...moving left is tricky as well because i needed to get the ball like out to 45ft and the ball being a continuous hooking ball, couldn't get it back strong enough to the pocket...polishing helped a bit but created other problems...so for THS it wasn't a good matchup....will recieve my Dimension in a few days and will post back with the results

Dan Belcher · « **Reply #29 on:** July 01, 2008, 08:12:31 AM »

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Everyone brings out good points on both balls....I use to have the Cell and not knowing better i had it drilled like my other stuff..(strong drilling)...bad mistake...being s stroker and its important to mention that because i have to line up closer to the track area than a cranker does...and yes the Cell grabs much earlier and therefore rolls out...moving left is tricky as well because i needed to get the ball like out to 45ft and the ball being a continuous hooking ball, couldn't get it back strong enough to the pocket...polishing helped a bit but created other problems...so for THS it wasn't a good matchup....will recieve my Dimension in a few days and will post back with the results

What you say is exactly why I put a pretty weak drilling on my Cell. I can stay in my comfort zone and swing it less while keeping the great ball motion and pin carry the Cell is known for.

Nicanor · « **Reply #30 on:** July 01, 2008, 10:05:03 AM »

I didn't have much luck with the Cell. But aftet getting some bowling lessons, I'm going to try it again. My Son lso has the Cell tht Buddies pro shop sent him (16 years old) and he is killing them with this ball. He is a more down and in player than I am. I have two Dimensions on the way one with a high pin aand one with a low pin. Don't know the exact drilling because they haven't been delivered yet. So I truly believe the Cell is an outstanding ball and I hve seen many bowlers throw them well, so I hope I can get the Cell bck in my bag.

In the bag:
Special Agent (polished)
Shift
Rival
Megaton Hybrid
Mighty Shift
Blue Dot

Also working with Heist drilled Rico, Buzzbomb, Supernova XP and the Complete NV and Ultra Zone both that I have had no luck with. Again, its probably me.

Didn't mtch up well with the Gravity Shift or the ttitude Shift.
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