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elew

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Attuide vs Special Agent
« on: November 12, 2007, 09:29:45 AM »
I would like to know the diff between the two balls. I was thinking pin under the fingers.

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Re: Attuide vs Special Agent
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2007, 06:13:47 PM »
From what I can see the radius of gyrations are the biggest difference.  The Attitude using the Shape Block core & the Spec. Agent using the EMC Core.  The SA looks like it has more of an arcing hook & the Attitude more of a sharp hook.  But a lot has to do with the way you have them drilled & how you release them.  

I have The Special Agent & the regular Shift.  I do see a little difference in their break to the pocket.  My Shift is Pearl particle R2s &w/it's core never loses energy even off light oil to dry boards & actually snaps more off that  friction, where as the Special Agent, if I over rev it will lose energy.  It also seems like if I do over rev the Shift, the worst that happens is that it goes brooklyn, but usually w/great carry.  Now I'm sounding like I'm reviewing the regular Shift, sorry, wasn't my intention.

I would check Storm's website & reviews of both balls also.

I am seriously looking at the Attitude Shift for myself also.  Mainly because I am a fan of the Core & love my Regular Shift so much if you couldn't already tell.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Attuide vs Special Agent
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 07:01:31 PM »
Another difference is that the Special Agent is symmetrical and the Attitude Shift is asymmetrical.  However, yes, the biggest difference is that the Special Agent will be earlier rolling and have more of an arc than the Attitude Shift.
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Re: Attuide vs Special Agent
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2007, 07:23:46 PM »
I realize layout makes a big difference, but generally speaking....would both of these balls handle heavy oil about the same, since they are the same coverstock?  I am trying to decide between these two balls.  Looking for something for heavier oil (but not a flood).
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Monster Pike

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Re: Attuide vs Special Agent
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 07:41:13 PM »
JMO, but I think because of the Attitudes assymetric core alone, it would be better for your scenario, "heavy but not a flood" because it won't lose energy on the back end like a Special Agent can as the night wares on, but layout & hand release has a lot to do with that, so I am not saying a Special Agent couldn't.  I'm saying an Attitude could handle it better. JMO.

I bought the Attitude yesterday for that reason partially.  I practiced right away on a fresh medium house shot and did ok, for my 1st time w/it.  I'll practice a little more before using it in league & review it.  But I mainly bought to use in future tournaments when I get a little better w/my overall game.
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elew

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Re: Attuide vs Special Agent
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 07:53:45 PM »
Hey Monster Pike,
Thanks for the information on the two balls. I'm going to get the Attitude and place the pin under. What was your layout and why?
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Re: Attuide vs Special Agent
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2007, 04:53:55 PM »
I went pin even w/bottom & just r.of ring fing. MB (key) down 2ins & 1 1/2 in. r. of thumb hole.  Wanted to go longer on Med. oil to complement my regular Shift & not have to over work it. 2 Have something a little stronger if needed.  I'm more of a between tweeker & stroker than flat out tweener if there is such a thing.  2night I have league, but may not use this ball yet.  Not enough practice w/it, 1bad game, 1decent, 1 good game & we'll be missing a guy.  Don't want to take chance for the team.  After Thanksgiving (we're outa town all week) I'll have more of chance to play w/it & use in league.  I can try & do a somewhat early review on 1 of these forum threads, but not an official review until I use it for several weeks.
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Big Jake

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Re: Attuide vs Special Agent
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2007, 08:01:41 PM »
Hey Stormers
 If both balls were drilled the same (the SA and the AS) since one is symmetrical
and the other is asymmetrical with the same release on a nice oil shot what would be the reaction difference? Thanks
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Re: Attuide vs Special Agent
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2007, 08:31:08 AM »
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Hey Stormers
 If both balls were drilled the same (the SA and the AS) since one is symmetrical
and the other is asymmetrical with the same release on a nice oil shot what would be the reaction difference? Thanks
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I am not claiming to be an expert but here's my take:
I beleive the difference of reaction that you may see is, that the AS will have a more angular shape off the breakpoint to the pocket, more continuation less deflection.  The SA may have more arc & a just a touch more deflection upon hitting the pocket.
Not knowing your particular skill level:  While speed of the shot will affect any ball, I think the SA is just a touch more speed & rev sensitive than the AS also. But that shouldn't bother the really good bowlers cuz they repeat their shots a lot more than the avg. Joe bowler. JMO.  Somebody else may disagree w/this assessment. But you said exact layouts as each other on exact same lane conditions, so I will assume same release & same speed.

I am in no way dissing the SA, I have one.  I just like my break a little more angular & I get that w/my regular Shift on Med-light cause of the pearl/part. coverstock & core w/my layout, so I'm hoping, and am confident that I will get that w/my AS on the heavier oil nights.  

Hoped this helped.  I consider myself a student so other's thoughts are welcome. Maybe a Storm staffer?
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