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Komodo

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Help with my new Reign
« on: September 21, 2009, 09:10:29 PM »
I brought a spare ball into a pro shop to have the span adjusted and to my surprise they had a new Reign ball out on display.  Owner said he had gotten some in early.  Anyways, it was the new ball I had decided I wanted when it was released so I went ahead and bought it then and there.  I want to make it clear that I'm not by any means a great bowler.  Only been at it for 2 years, but I'm starting to get a lot better and so far am carrying a 175 average in league.  I wanted to purchase my first high performance ball and the Reign seemed to be exactly what I had in mind.  Something really angular and strong off the break.  Also I wanted to have the drilling done based on my PAP.  The pro shop guy took my PAP by looking at the track on my spare ball (though I had only rolled that a few times so I can't imagine it had much of a track) and I explained to him the reaction I was looking for and told him to punch it up.  Picked it up the next day but did not have time to roll it then and there.  It was drilled so as the pin was dead left of center, sort of over middle finger, and about .75 inches above.  Anyways, took it out later and the reaction was simply not at all what I expected.  My old ball is a Brunswick Wizard and I expected a drastically different reaction from that.  What I got was damn near indiscernible.  I'm not a high rev player (which I explained at the time of purchase) and I tend to roll straight up the 5 board with speed.  I expected to be able to play much more in to out using this ball and still get recovery.  Quite frankly I saw no difference in reaction.  Is it possibly that I just don't put enough rev's on the ball to get it to react any differntly?  Or, is it that the drill really wasn't the right one for me?  I'd appreciate and thoughts you have.  

Also on a side note.  Is it normal when a pro shop drills a ball to use a scribe to mark up the ball? I mean I realize its just cosmetic and that a bowling ball ends up looking crappy after a couple weeks of bowling anyway, but isn't it normal to want your new ball to look new?  Not only was my new Reign all scribed up from finger holes to thumb but the guy also did the same to my previously unmarked spare ball when he fixed the span.

Edited on 9/24/2009 4:07 PM

 

jls

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Re: Help with my new Reign
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2009, 04:54:52 PM »
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Lookie here junior, just because you sit around in your underwear drinking coffee all day instead of selling and properly mapping out large number of balls, getting wound up about minutia doesn't mean the world is going to end.

Unless you drastically change your release for your spares, your PAP is not going to change much, is that clear?  Most people, that would be the less than elite 210-200 average bowler, switches to a spare ball so they don't have to make a big change to their release.

Even changing from a classic tweener strike release to a lower rev flatter release won't change your PAP by more than 1/2" or so, hardly important to the average bowler.  It certainly wouldn't turn a perfect ball into a turd.  Anyone not named Norm Duke or Walter Ray Williams Jr. that thinks his PAP being off by 1/2" needs to have his head examined, is that clear?

I'll let you get back to your coffee now.  Maybe you're lucky and your mom made you a mocha.
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First toe nail,  did you read what some other real pro shops had to say about that....They felt indeed that it would be different...

Second nail boy, are you a pro shop???  Have you ever taken 3 or 4 balls from a bowler and checked them????  From their oil ball to their spare ball???

I have many times toe hang nail... and it varies...

Third, probably not hang nail,  because your a dime a dozen keyboard pounder, who comes on this site daily and pretends he knows something...

Fourth,  you don't know crap...

Fifth,  Open a pro shop...Put you money where you big fat mouth is...

Sixth, hang nail,   now get lost, you bore me,  back to Lane One with you...

Seventh,  Dip nail,  I never said the pap was the issue here,  learn how to read boy,  I said it was a poor drilling....

Eight, Did I mention, you bore me...

Most bowlers will bring in one of the regular strike balls when the decide to buy a new ball... Seldom have I seen a bowler bring in his spare ball to have the PAP taken from it...

Now it may very well be true, that by taking a clean hard shell low flaring ball and using it on oil with your strike shot release, may be a very accurate way to find your pap...

But really here Nails,  have you ever done that??? Have most bowlers ever done that....

What I clearly said nails,  was don't use the pap off your old plastic or spare ball, that you have been using for spare shooting...or 10 pins...

There is a differnce...

Once you get your head out of your yuppie butt, you might understand it...

Untill then, you are nothing more then another dime a dozen keyboard pounder pretending to be bowling expert...

did I mention,  you bore me....


Now isn't it time for you to make your way over to Lane One and help out Steven....



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snowspike1

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Re: Help with my new Reign
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2009, 06:27:23 PM »
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does jls know something we don't?


He seems to think he does.... Just ask him he'll tell ya.

Another selfabsorbed well spoken voice.....

If he is on staff with any ball company or has ANY certification for coatching /or drilling IMHO they should be pulled.  (insert your self centerd drivel here)..  

People use this site to solicate advice from others that have had or in the "know" and don't desrve to be trashed.

You seem to know everything so whats the secert to life/ what planet (other than earth) has life on it/ How long before you grow up and get a life?

jls

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Re: Help with my new Reign
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2009, 06:50:13 PM »
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does jls know something we don't?


He seems to think he does.... Just ask him he'll tell ya.

Another selfabsorbed well spoken voice.....

If he is on staff with any ball company or has ANY certification for coatching /or drilling IMHO they should be pulled.  (insert your self centerd drivel here)..  

People use this site to solicate advice from others that have had or in the "know" and don't desrve to be trashed.

You seem to know everything so whats the secert to life/ what planet (other than earth) has life on it/ How long before you grow up and get a life?




When you learn how to read boy, you will see there was no bashing in my first reply towards him...Any so called bashing came later after some people questioned the PAP thing....

I clearly pointed out, you poor excuse for a human, that it is not accurate to take a PAP off a spare ball... Which differs from using a hard shell low flaring ball that is clean in oil to find your PAP...

But your too stupid to understand that.. So you come on with your two bit attack against me... Like I care what pond scum thinks or says....

You probably buy your balls on Ebay or at K-Mart...

You probably came on after this person CHANGED THE NAME OF HIS THREAD...
Before he was bashing a new Storm ball called the Reign...

He was not happy with the ball and posted it that way in his title....
Yet his thread clearly showed to anyone with a brain, that he had a very poor drilling put on said ball... Which more then likely caused the poor reaction he got.... You poor excuse for a human...

I Believe the original title was " dissatisfied with my new Reign"

My first reply to him clearly expalin that,  you poor excuse for a human....

Now isn't it your bed time....  Make sure you go pee pee on the toy toy, cause your mommy does not like those middle of the nite accidents...

And do  yourself and mankind a favor... Wash your hands after you pee on them...

now

are we clear


GLAD TO SEE HE FIRST CHANGED THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD...

And glad to see him lock it...

"house hack"  "Scribe lines" "Strong off the break"  "open up the lanes" "pap off my spare ball"
You guys crack me up with you bowling lingo...You all been standing next to the big boys and listening to what they say...

Now do what you do best in bowling.... "waitress, another round"


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snowspike1

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Re: Help with my new Reign
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2009, 12:06:33 AM »
like i figured more drivel out of a house hack.