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ryguy119

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FIGHT struggles on wood lanes
« on: March 22, 2016, 08:31:00 AM »
Used my Fight last week on a synthetic lane surface and bowled real well. Since then I bowled in 2 wood houses and nothing. Ball starts up way to soon and almost quits when it hits the pocket. I was wondering if anybody else was having this problem and how I should try to correct it.  I guess I could just save it for synthetic houses but I would like to figure something out on wood. IQ Tour rolls great on any lane surface. I was hoping Fight would be a replacement for IQ Tour but so far not happening. Might just have to buy another IQ Tour and have 2, each with a different surface. Thanks.

 

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Re: FIGHT struggles on wood lanes
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016, 08:52:17 AM »
Sounds as if it is just too much ball, even with the high rg.

If it works well on synthetics for you, keep the Fight you have as is for that.

I would either A) drill another Fight and take the surface to 4000 or 2000 and some polish or 4000 and some polish (whatever works best after trying each) to help the ball get through the heads or B) Get a ball less aggressive - Fight's cover is very aggressive although the core is lopey - and use that on the Wood Surface. As you pointed out, the IQ Tour works great, which is a ball with a less aggressive cover and a ball with less diff, although the RG is much lower. Don't overthink it.

Remember, surface is king. You have to match surface first. Once you match surface, then you can start messing with the core dynamics to make a better match up.

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Re: FIGHT struggles on wood lanes
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2016, 10:47:35 AM »
You can't force a ball to work all the time.

Like Wowzers said, surface is key. Wood lanes are going to have a lot of friction. People struggle with reaction all the time now because there is so much friction and modern covers are so much stronger

ryguy119

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Re: FIGHT struggles on wood lanes
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2016, 11:00:09 AM »
Great advice guys.  I was just looking to replace my aging IQ Tour with Fight but looks like that won't work. I can use the Fight on synthetic and go with the IQ Tour on wood. Also have a Ride that rolls hard on both surfaces. It just needs some dry to strike a lot. Heading out to Reno soon and from what I have heard they are tougher then El Paso was last year. If I remember from last time I bowled there, the lanes are synthetic. Might be a good place to bring the Fight.

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Re: FIGHT struggles on wood lanes
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 12:08:50 PM »
Cannot approach wood lanes same as synthetic.  On wood, with the newer balls, stay out of track as long as possible, or dredge up an older ball to play the track. 

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Re: FIGHT struggles on wood lanes
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 12:25:39 PM »
Good luck at Nationals. Hope you bowl well!

As for the advise you cannot approach Wood and Synthetics the same, that is spot on, but at a more granular level, you cannot approach 2 houses the same. Differences in location, moisture, what the house is built on, etc etc will all play into factors on how quickly or slowly the oil moves, how much friction is available, etc.

In my area, I have one house that has Guardian heads, another that is all 40 wood, but the trick at this house is the first 30 lanes are original, the last 10 have heads from a different house because they were mainly for kiddie stuff and have been beat up for so many years. So even in one house the lanes can play vastly different.


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Re: FIGHT struggles on wood lanes
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2016, 01:02:54 PM »
FOR YEARS NOW

I have not been able to use solid anything on wood. I have been exclusively using an entire polished  pearl bag on wood lanes

The same for synthetics... I go all solid...and one polished pearl(for when the lane guy sucks at life that week)
In the bag [Infinite Physix, Volatility Torque, Night Road, Phaze III, Burner Solid, Hustle AU]
*Now Testing* IQ Ruby, Renevant, another IQ Tour solid
Coming soon...???

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Re: FIGHT struggles on wood lanes
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2016, 03:52:53 PM »
Dozer

Amazing how specific bowling balls are now for certain conditions. I see the same as you.

I once bowled in a 2nd shift league. League followed a men's league and a women's league. First 2 or 3 pairs were behind teams of 5 women. Carrydown galore from the plastic equipment used. Last 9 or 10 pairs were following teams of 5 men. Dry outside and on fire by the end of our league.

This was a scratch league, you had to have an average of 200 to be eligible for the "draft" to get into the league, $25 a night to bowl (and this was 10 years ago), and the year my team won this league, we each took home over $3000. The big thing at the end of the night was a rush to see where you bowled next week so you knew what set of equipment to bring the following week.