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ksucat

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Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« on: February 22, 2017, 11:47:34 AM »
My lovely 18-year old daughter just got a Code Black this week. 

First time she used was after senior league where it must have had lots of plastic balls thrown because the ball just wouldn't corner.  She blamed the new ball.  15-year old son was wheeling it on his lane with his new Code Black.  When he threw on her pair, he said his ball got to same spot and just puked.  Bad time to use this ball was all I thought.

Second time out was fresh, either red-white-blue, modified house shot.  Ball was a little too strong in dry and too weak in oil.  Told her to put it away for now just so she could see some good ball motion and get herself settled as she was muscling some at this point trying to make new ball work.  We already took 4000 pad, but may take 2000 or 3000 to it to knock more factory shine off.  Only practice again, so no harm done.

18-year old girl is mad at ball, mad at me and just in bad mood.  I thought I said that ball looks bad right now and she wasn't throwing it great either due to over/under/bad ball reaction.  She heard that she is BAAAADDDDD!!!!  Ugh. 

We've read about ball and talked to coach and PSO, but please offer insight as to best use for Code Black.  Any suggestions on how to address upset 18-year old with hormones also appreciated.   ;) 

 

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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 12:07:07 PM »
the best coaching advice I've ever received:

"the difference between coaching girls and boys is:
boys have to perform well to feel good about themselves,
girls have to feel good about themselves to perform well"

first off, point out some positives with her bowling, then discuss how the CB might be an asset to her game. Once she gets it in her head the ball won't work for her, you might as well drop it and move on.
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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 12:47:07 PM »
the best coaching advice I've ever received:

"the difference between coaching girls and boys is:
boys have to perform well to feel good about themselves,
girls have to feel good about themselves to perform well"

first off, point out some positives with her bowling, then discuss how the CB might be an asset to her game. Once she gets it in her head the ball won't work for her, you might as well drop it and move on.

Are you saying that common sense doesn't work with females?
Imagine that!
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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 12:52:42 PM »
My wife has to trust a ball before she throws it well.  If there isn't trust, she will do something in her swing to try and compensate for whatever it is that causes the distrust.

So I feel ya.  Try to practice after a competitive league where the ball will be better suited.  Break down in the track and let her play off that break down.  That is really where this ball shines.

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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 01:03:52 PM »
Sounds to me (and again this is just me)....like she really wants to throw that ball for some particular reason.  I think the teachable moment here is that a ball is just a tool and the ultimate goal is to score.  I have a Rocket Ship, Eternal Cell, Code Black and Hectic and I really prefer none of them as the one that is working is the one I want in my hand.  It's all about matching up.......and this is a transition ball and not one best suited for lanes that have carry down or a hang spot.

These are things that some must learn the hard way in this game in order to truly learn.  No amount of articulation, for some reason, is effective.

Also (and again this is just me) don't "tell" her to do things....ask questions that insinuate to prompt some thinking.

But yeah, 18 year old female....learning to bowl....  :-X

Only my $0.02.
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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 03:15:02 PM »
  Any suggestions on how to address upset 18-year old with hormones also appreciated.   ;) 

Sour skittles.  That is all.

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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 05:53:38 AM »
 Any suggestions on how to address upset 18-year old with hormones also appreciated.   ;) 

Lots of patience and prayer my friend :) Going through the same with my 13 yr old :)

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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 07:18:16 AM »
I didn't like my code black at all until I hit it by 2000 by hand. It was always too long in oil but too sharp on dry. At 2000, the shape smoothed out just enough to be controllable, but it's still very strong off the spot. It's now my best ball for stand left throw right and Im starting to trust it and love it (791 on Monday).

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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2017, 08:47:55 AM »
You cant force a ball to work, you have to play what the lanes give you

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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2017, 11:41:11 AM »
Some balls are more condition specific, or style specific than others.  They always use to say that shell was 80% and core 20% of ball reaction.  As such it makes sense to try to tweak the cover first.  However cire shell matchup seems to be a bigger factor than in years past.  I threw the code black at a demo and frankly didnt like the reaction that well either.  Too much over under for my lower rev style.


I am certain that there are probably conditions where the Black would be good fir her, but it may not be a great match for her on many conditions.

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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2017, 12:06:05 PM »
Thanks for replies.  My wife showed post to daughter and she was a little hurt that I asked the questions, but did understand my intentions are good and this is pretty anonymous.  She's an amazing kid that got a scholarship to bowl next year and is putting a little too much pressure on herself to finish out her final high school bowling season.  Barely qualified for state, so we will be cheering on her last meet next Thursday.

Her coach took 1000 pad to it and Code Black looked amazing during lesson.  Her rev rate has dramatically increased in the past couple years so there is a learning "curve" there as well.  I think she gets too deep too quick, but she's struggling with overhook when her ball hits the dry on THS.  I don't have answers for her there since I struggle on THS sometimes as well.

Luckily her coach told her that she has many balls and this will be a little specific for her style.  When it's the right time, she will think it's the greatest thing in the world.  If used improperly, she'll fight control.  They talked that the ball may be too responsive for fresh patterns and to pull it out when other balls are lazy down lane. 

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Re: Daughter asks why she shouldn't use Code Black
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2017, 11:22:50 AM »
Good luck and congrats to your daughter on the scholarship. Seems her coach said exactly what I was going to post before I read your last post. Balls are tools and some are more narrow in use for a particular style or shot and there are some that one person will never like while others love it. I usually do the opposite and fall in love with one ball that had success with one week or night and stick with it when its not performing on a subsequent nite.