Author Topic: How to drill a Natural (Read 3766 times)

strikestriketapped · « **on:** October 06, 2009, 05:55:31 AM »

Thinking of getting a Natural. I am a stroker with 275 RPM and 15 MPH ball speed. Good axis rotation. Curious how I should get it drilled. Was thinking 4 3/4 pin to PAP, pin over bridge. Thoughts?
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Joe Jr · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2009, 02:16:54 PM »

With your ball speed I think that drilling would work fine, you could even go a little stronger if you wanted. I drilled mine last night and went 4 1/2 under bridge rolls amazing but my ball speed is about 4mph higher then yours.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2009, 02:19:32 PM »

Ball speed measured where in the heads or at the pin deck?
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Joe Jr · « **Reply #3 on:** October 07, 2009, 01:01:30 PM »

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Ball speed measured where in the heads or at the pin deck?
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Mine?
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astrodanco · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2009, 08:00:50 PM »

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Mine?

The original poster who started the thread (aka "the OP"). The OP mentioned his 15 MPH ball speed. There''s a big difference between 15 MPH off your hand vs. 15 MPH at the pin deck. The ball slows down significantly before it reaches the pin deck. Most people here seem to quote ball speed off their hand, yet all the centers I know of measure the speed at the pin deck (or rather at the location of the camera).

Edited on 10/7/2009 8:03 PM

Joe Jr · « **Reply #5 on:** October 07, 2009, 09:47:56 PM »

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Mine?

The original poster who started the thread (aka "the OP"). The OP mentioned his 15 MPH ball speed. There''s a big difference between 15 MPH off your hand vs. 15 MPH at the pin deck. The ball slows down significantly before it reaches the pin deck. Most people here seem to quote ball speed off their hand, yet all the centers I know of measure the speed at the pin deck (or rather at the location of the camera).

Edited on 10/7/2009 8:03 PM

I am very well aware of all of that, but I also mentioned my ball speed as well.
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FBM357 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:14:23 PM »

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Thinking of getting a Natural. I am a stroker with 275 RPM and 15 MPH ball speed. Good axis rotation. Curious how I should get it drilled. Was thinking 4 3/4 pin to PAP, pin over bridge. Thoughts?
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My ball speed is similar to yours. Rotation is in 30 degree range and my rpm''s are slightly higher. My PAP is 4x0 (I''m inverted). Here is how I have mine layed out (polished of course

) Oh, I also loft as well ... http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z163/fbm357/stormnatural.jpg
I love the roll on this ball!

Edited on 10/7/2009 10:14 PM

Joe Jr · « **Reply #7 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:27:27 PM »

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Thinking of getting a Natural. I am a stroker with 275 RPM and 15 MPH ball speed. Good axis rotation. Curious how I should get it drilled. Was thinking 4 3/4 pin to PAP, pin over bridge. Thoughts?
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Storm/900 Global

My ball speed is similar to yours. Rotation is in 30 degree range and my rpm''s are slightly higher. My PAP is 4x0 (I''m inverted). Here is how I have mine layed out (polished of course ) Oh, I also loft as well ... http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z163/fbm357/stormnatural.jpg
I love the roll on this ball!

Edited on 10/7/2009 10:14 PM

How do you like it polished? I love mine but it hooks, and I'm considering drilling another pin up and polishing it.
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Spider Ball Bowler · « **Reply #8 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:40:26 PM »

It's urethane, just slap a label drill on it and go. If it's drilled 3 3/8 or 3 1/3 from you PAP, do you think it's going to make a difference?

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Nor Cal Bowler · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2009, 09:06:53 AM »

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It's urethane, just slap a label drill on it and go. If it's drilled 3 3/8 or 3 1/3 from you PAP, do you think it's going to make a difference?

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that's how my natural is drilled...
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microfiber · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:10:44 AM »

FBM357

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My PAP is 4x0 (I''m inverted).

If you're inverted shouldn't your PAP have a number going down vs. 0"?

los2003 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:27:58 AM »

I havent seen 1 yet roll well thats pin up.. they all look like plastic.. But almost anything pin under has been good I have no idea why tho..

Mr Straight Ball · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2009, 11:10:21 AM »

I have a pin up Natural, not a problem. But to support your theory, I think your rev rate needs to be high if you do a pin up drill. And high is not 300, 350 or 400 rpms like some like to tell me. LOL
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Bigmike · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2009, 11:20:33 AM »

That would be correct. Inverted tracks have a Vertical Axis Coordinate that is down the VAL. 0 is straight across the grip center.

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FBM357

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My PAP is 4x0 (I''m inverted).

If you're inverted shouldn't your PAP have a number going down vs. 0"?

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FBM357 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2009, 12:33:53 PM »

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FBM357

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My PAP is 4x0 (I''m inverted).

If you're inverted shouldn't your PAP have a number going down vs. 0"?

PAP was 4 3/4 x 3/4 down and recently had it remeasured. Made the statement based upon the former (i.e. inverted)