Mr Straight Ball wrote on 7/29/2011 11:40 AM:

JJ,

To open my thoughts, 41' is not long, I bowl at a house that runs a 43' pattern and most tournaments run shots between 35-41. With that said, remember the Nano is a STRONG rock and placing the pin 3 ½" from your pap could be overkill. There are a lot of bowlers who only see the ball down the lane and when it does not hook, they assume the shot is tight. What happens to a lot of us is we drill the ball so strong that it starts up and stops before it rolls through where we are looking. I'd steer you towards the 4 x 4 x 2 layout over the 3.5 x 5 x 3 (if you want to drill from the sheet), the 4 x 4 x 2 layout gives you more looks with the ball.

 

I do have a Nano drilled weaker than what you're thinking as my rev rate hoovers around 500 rpm and I throw it 18+ mph. This ball is like no other as it reacts like it has teeth. For me, this ball shines of course when the heads are tight and/or when the back ends are tighter. It is fun watching this ball blow a pattern open. Good luck with yours.

 

P.S. A top weight of 3oz is normal

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ccrider wrote on 8/2/2011 3:47 PM:

Tommy, I do not claim to be a no it all. However, it is obvious that you do not know much at all about weight holes. You can use them to increase or decrease hook, depending on where you place them in relation to your axis point.

 

Thus, drilling a hole does not mean that the ball will necessarily hook more. In fact, the hole can make the ball hook less.

 

I don't think any knowledgable people disagree with this, although there may be some dispute about where to place the hole to obtain maximum or minimum "hook" for lack of a better term. It may be better to say earlier or later roll.

 

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tommygn wrote on 8/3/2011 6:42 AM:

I know PLEANTY about balance holes, and how to use them (take a second to read my review on the Anarchy, where I discuss the use of balance holes and relation to spin times).

 

The point is, WHY spend the money on the strongest cover stock produced to date, and turn it into a dry lane ball by reducing the flare and hook potential? There are numerous bowling balls out there that this can be accomplished with, and see better results, because that is what the ball is intended for.

It is fairly safe to say, that more often than not, the use of a balance hole is to increase dynamics in weaker balls, to make them stronger, and perform beyond the design of the ball. When drilling a ball that fits into USBC specifications without the use of a balance hole, this allows for the pro shop then to tweak the desired reaction after the bowler has thrown the ball, and fine tune it to his needs (often cover preparation is the first step). If you start with a big balance hole just to get the ball legal, you are now limited to what you can do with alterations of motion.

My point is, his pro shop operator may  know a little more about the conditions he is bowling on, and the bowlers tendencies, more so than you or I, as I know I have never seen this guy bowl (have you?), or know what surface he is bowling on, or the volume of oil, or thickness of oil, shape of oil pattern, etc...  It is very unfair for people to jump on a pro shop before knowing all the facts.
 

ccrider wrote on 8/2/2011 3:47 PM:

Tommy, I do not claim to be a no it all. However, it is obvious that you do not know much at all about weight holes. You can use them to increase or decrease hook, depending on where you place them in relation to your axis point.

 

Thus, drilling a hole does not mean that the ball will necessarily hook more. In fact, the hole can make the ball hook less.

 

I don't think any knowledgable people disagree with this, although there may be some dispute about where to place the hole to obtain maximum or minimum "hook" for lack of a better term. It may be better to say earlier or later roll.

 

Those that can do. Those that can't complain. Pimpin ain't easy, but it's mandatory.

Most things we like, we don't need. Most things we need, we don't like. Don't confuse your likes with your needs.

Tommy Gollick
Storm Regional/Pro Shop staff
Red Crown Pro Shop Harrisburg, PA
stormbowling.com

If your statement about cover and motion is correct placing a weight hole in a nano is not going to turn it into a dry lane ball. The money is spent; be bought the ball. So you are now back to the question that he posed-- how do I deal with three ounces of fop weight?


If you are saying that you can not make the nano stronger by use of a weight hole, the literature does not support your position. Last, if the nano is not the right ball for the condition, when considering all other relevant factors, his ball driller should be telling him that instead some nonsense about the top weight.

Surely you recognize this.

Those that can do. Those that can't complain. Pimpin ain't easy, but it's mandatory.

Most things we like, we don't need. Most things we need, we don't like. Don't confuse your likes with your needs.

Those that can do. Those that can't complain. Pimpin ain't easy, but it's mandatory.

Most things we like, we don't need. Most things we need, we don't like. Don't confuse your likes with your needs.