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beeker

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Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« on: December 11, 2013, 04:04:39 PM »
I currently have a Lucid and IQ pearl.  I usually start off the night with the Lucid and use it until the heads burn up.  I then switch to the Iq pearl.  As most people here already know the Iq pearl gets through the heads better and is stronger in the back.  It compliments the Lucid well for me.  The problem I sometimes run into is when the lanes are too burnt for the Iq.  I wanted a ball to switch to when that happens.  I have a bunch of older Visionary balls but they are mostly solids and are much more midlane type reactions.  I will use them on certain sport patterns but they don't work well with my Storm balls in terms of being able to switch to them.

So I went to my proshop and told him I was looking for a ball to go to when the Iq pearl was too strong.  He recommended the Hyroad Pearl.  I thought the Lights Out would have been a better option for what I was looking for but I took his advice and got the Hyroad pearl.  So far the Hyroad pearl is WAY too strong for what I wanted.  It is stronger than the Iq pearl.  In fact it is the strongest backend ball I have ever thrown. It is similar to the Iq pearl in the heads but it is stronger in the back. 

Now I don't know what to do.  Going from the Lucid to the Iq pearl works well for me.  Going to the Hyroad is a very different shot because the back end is so strong.  I already have a small hole punched in the side and I have scuffed it with 4000 then 3000.  It is still too strong for what I was looking for. 

Should I just give up on it and go with something much weaker?  I could always keep it for a very long sport pattern where the Iq pearl isn't quite turning the corner.  I don't know if it worth keeping just for that. 

Does anyone else here have the Iq pearl and the Hyroad pearl? 

If I didn't have the Iq pearl already I imagine I could keep screwing with the surface of the Hyroad pearl and eventually get it to work for me.  My gut feeling is if I do that I'm gonna end up with a ball almost identical to the Iq pearl.     
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 04:08:25 PM »
The hyroad pearl goes sideways. that was a bad recommendation by your pro shop.  Even if you tinker with it, it will never be any weaker than the gold ball.

You should have either went with a Lights Out or a Breeze

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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 04:11:33 PM »
So most people will agree the Hyroad pearl is stronger than the Iq pearl?

That is exactly what I have found and I am looking for confirmation. 
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 04:15:59 PM »
I was looking at the iq pearl as my 2 ball to my lucid as well. would you recommend this since you have both?
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 04:22:07 PM »
I emailed storm and they indeed confirmed the hyroad pearl is a bit stronger overall than the IQTP.
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 04:22:53 PM »
Personally, i would wait to see how the IQ Fusion rolls but that is just me.  A lot of people have had great success with the gold ball.
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 04:30:51 PM »
I like the Lucid and Iq pearl combo.  They are very different balls but compliment each other well.  The Lucid works well when there is head oil and the back ends are fresh.  Like the start of almost any league night.  The issue with the Lucid is it doesn't handle carry down well.  Some nights I will actually move right and play straighter as the night goes on as the carry down transitions.  It may be for only a few shots then I will began moving back left. It is fairly easy for me to see when to do that because the Lucid will skid a bit.  That is what I like about the Lucid. It is easy to read what is going on with the lanes.

Most nights the head oil will eventually begin to burn up and you will see the Lucid hooking too early.  Once that happens I put it away and go to the Iq pearl.  The Iq pearl will get through the heads easily and make a strong but controllable back end move. 
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 04:35:40 PM »
Quote from: mattypizon on December 11, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
I emailed storm and they indeed confirmed the hyroad pearl is a bit stronger overall than the IQTP.

Thanks!  I have found the Hyroad pearl to be much stronger than the Iq pearl.  Of course my Iq pearl is 8 months old and the Hyroad pearl is brand new.  I don't know how they would compare if they were both brand new. 
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2013, 04:58:41 PM »
Quote from: beeker on December 11, 2013, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: mattypizon on December 11, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
I emailed storm and they indeed confirmed the hyroad pearl is a bit stronger overall than the IQTP.

Thanks!  I have found the Hyroad pearl to be much stronger than the Iq pearl.  Of course my Iq pearl is 8 months old and the Hyroad pearl is brand new.  I don't know how they would compare if they were both brand new. 

I cannot imagine a circumstance where someone would recommend a HyRoad Pearl as a step down from the IQP. BUT keep in mind that the IQP, the HR Pearl AND the Lights Out all use the same coverstock. The LO is probably the right choice for you, BUT with a weak drilling.
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 05:10:39 PM »
My proshop has always given me good advice and are excellent at drilling.  I asked him a few times if the Hyroad Pearl was the right choice for what I was looking for because I thought it would be way too strong.  I also thought it would be too similar to the Iq pearl.  I was looking for something weaker I could switch to when the Iq pearl was too strong.  Unfortunately I was right and this time they were wrong.  Ohh well.  Nobody is perfect. 

If you were me would you bother to keep the Hyroad pearl or should I just cut my loses and try something else?  As of now I am very happy with the Lucid and Iq pearl combo.  I just need a weaker ball for when the lanes are fried. 

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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 05:32:53 PM »
Quote from: charlest on December 11, 2013, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: beeker on December 11, 2013, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: mattypizon on December 11, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
I emailed storm and they indeed confirmed the hyroad pearl is a bit stronger overall than the IQTP.

Thanks!  I have found the Hyroad pearl to be much stronger than the Iq pearl.  Of course my Iq pearl is 8 months old and the Hyroad pearl is brand new.  I don't know how they would compare if they were both brand new. 

I cannot imagine a circumstance where someone would recommend a HyRoad Pearl as a step down from the IQP. BUT keep in mind that the IQP, the HR Pearl AND the Lights Out all use the same coverstock. The LO is probably the right choice for you, BUT with a weak drilling.

This is incorrect,  the Hyroad Pearl and and IQTP share the same cover. The Lights Out is R2S hybrid.
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2013, 05:50:03 PM »
I agree with the pro shop operator. I have both balls and for me, the Hyroad Pearl is usually a ball I go to after the IQ Tour starts to labor. However, I do have to take a step left. Is it stronger? Depends on what you're looking for. Getting in on the lane (I.e., 20-25 at the arrows, not forcing a ball up a burned track). The HYPearl is stronger, down lane. The IQTP is stronger, In the midlane. The shapes are different and compliment each very well.

I'm going to be frank, you sound like someone who refuses to or is incapable of moving their feet. You're using two low rg balls in the Lucid and IQTP which don't yield a ton of motion when the fronts dissipate. When you get something in your hand that has movement downlane its "too strong".  With the extra hole and surface I'd suggest moving in on the lane and see what happens.

Or you could get a weaker ball, drill it weak and run the risk of it being a dart. But that's standard advice on ballreviews.com where a large majority of users think its criminal to move their feet. Its more prudent to jam a ball up dirt or the next favorite piece of advice, drill a urethane ball.
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 06:11:46 PM »
Quote from: northface28 on December 11, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
I agree with the pro shop operator. I have both balls and for me, the Hyroad Pearl is usually a ball I go to after the IQ Tour starts to labor. However, I do have to take a step left. Is it stronger? Depends on what you're looking for. Getting in on the lane (I.e., 20-25 at the arrows, not forcing a ball up a burned track). The HYPearl is stronger, down lane. The IQTP is stronger, In the midlane. The shapes are different and compliment each very well.

I'm going to be frank, you sound like someone who refuses to or is incapable of moving their feet. You're using two low rg balls in the Lucid and IQTP which don't yield a ton of motion when the fronts dissipate. When you get something in your hand that has movement downlane its "too strong".  With the extra hole and surface I'd suggest moving in on the lane and see what happens.

Or you could get a weaker ball, drill it weak and run the risk of it being a dart. But that's standard advice on ballreviews.com where a large majority of users think its criminal to move their feet. Its more prudent to jam a ball up dirt or the next favorite piece of advice, drill a urethane ball.

Do you have the Iq tour pearl or the regular Iq tour???

I am not afraid to move my feet at all.  I can play in when I need to.  Your analysis of me is incorrect.

I agree with you that the Iq pearl is more midlane than the Hyroad pearl.  I am mostly surprised by how strong the Hyroad pearl is in the back.  It is not what I expected nor what I was looking for.  I am not saying I couldn't adjust my game to find a use for the Hyroad pearl.  I am sure I could.  Regardless I was looking for a ball that was more controllable and less agressive for when the lanes are fried.  Something I could take out of my bag and play a similar line to finish the night.  Not a ball that I have to completely switch lines mid game and hope for the best.

You do agree that if I played the same line with the Iq pearl as the Hyroad pearl that in most situations the Hyroad will hook more correct???


 
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 06:38:53 PM »
Quote from: beeker on December 11, 2013, 06:11:46 PM
Quote from: northface28 on December 11, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
I agree with the pro shop operator. I have both balls and for me, the Hyroad Pearl is usually a ball I go to after the IQ Tour starts to labor. However, I do have to take a step left. Is it stronger? Depends on what you're looking for. Getting in on the lane (I.e., 20-25 at the arrows, not forcing a ball up a burned track). The HYPearl is stronger, down lane. The IQTP is stronger, In the midlane. The shapes are different and compliment each very well.

I'm going to be frank, you sound like someone who refuses to or is incapable of moving their feet. You're using two low rg balls in the Lucid and IQTP which don't yield a ton of motion when the fronts dissipate. When you get something in your hand that has movement downlane its "too strong".  With the extra hole and surface I'd suggest moving in on the lane and see what happens.

Or you could get a weaker ball, drill it weak and run the risk of it being a dart. But that's standard advice on ballreviews.com where a large majority of users think its criminal to move their feet. Its more prudent to jam a ball up dirt or the next favorite piece of advice, drill a urethane ball.

Do you have the Iq tour pearl or the regular Iq tour???

I am not afraid to move my feet at all.  I can play in when I need to.  Your analysis of me is incorrect.

I agree with you that the Iq pearl is more midlane than the Hyroad pearl.  I am mostly surprised by how strong the Hyroad pearl is in the back.  It is not what I expected nor what I was looking for.  I am not saying I couldn't adjust my game to find a use for the Hyroad pearl.  I am sure I could.  Regardless I was looking for a ball that was more controllable and less agressive for when the lanes are fried.  Something I could take out of my bag and play a similar line to finish the night.  Not a ball that I have to completely switch lines mid game and hope for the best.

You do agree that if I played the same line with the Iq pearl as the Hyroad pearl that in most situations the Hyroad will hook more correct???


 

Yes, I do have both iq tours. I hate to break it to you, sometimes you have to change lines mid game, its part of bowling.

My analysis is incorrect?  Then why did you say you'd say you'd "like to finish the night playing a similar line". This kind of cements my blind analysis. You want to play where you want and not move all that much.

I'd suggest a longer, higher pin IQTP. Anything else would be more downlane than I think you're comfortable with. Maybe a lights out, I have a low pin, low hole lights out so I don't consider it "weak" like most on this site. Perhaps with a higher pin its longer and weaker.
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Re: Hyroad pearl is too strong....
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 06:52:49 PM »
Maybe I am not a good enough bowler to be able to switch to a completely different line and ball mid game when I don't know what the ball is going to do.

I make adjustments the entire night. When I see a ball is starting to over or under react I adjust accordingly until there is no more room to adjust.  I then switch to a ball that will give me the reaction I am looking for. Knowing how much more or less the ball you switch to is going to react is critical.  Switching balls while also switching to a different line in the middle of third game is not something I would like to do.  All it takes is one split and I'm screwed. 

I don't go from swinging it out to ten then moving way left and swinging it out to 20.  Maybe your good enough to do that but I rarely see anyone change lines that drastically late in the night.  During the first game or during practice trying to figure out the lanes I have seen and I do the same thing.  But changing balls and lines drastically at the end of the night I rarely see anyone do.   
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