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Fluff E Bunnie

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Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« on: June 21, 2006, 12:13:18 AM »
Can someone explain this to me?  Every time I try to look at bowlingball.com's perfect scale it only makes me think that it isn't very perfect.

Dark Thunder:
http://www.bowlingball.com/Bowling-Ball-4113/storm-dark-thunder-pro-pin.html
Perfect Scale: 178.0

ThunderStruck:
http://www.bowlingball.com/Bowling-Ball-4476/storm-thunderstruck.html
Perfect Scale: 142.5

Paradigm Passion:
http://www.bowlingball.com/Bowling-Ball-4096/storm-paradigm-passion.html
Perfect Scale: 186.0

X-Factor Vertigo:
http://www.bowlingball.com/Bowling-Ball-2801/storm-x-factor-vertigo.html
Perfect Scale: 203.0

So looking at that...  You are telling me that a Dark Thunder hooks a great deal more than a Thunderstruck, but they have the same core and the Thunderstruck has the reactor coverstock.  Isn't the reactor the latest/greatest coverstock (outside of EOX)?

Also, you are telling me that a Dark Thunder hooks about as much as a Passion?  This is after people say that the Dark Thunder is a great benchmark ball?  

And going by this a Vertigo has more hook potential than a Passion.

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Fluff E Bunnie

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2006, 08:17:35 AM »
But what's the point of calling a scale perfect if it is so clearly out of wack?
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EEW619

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2006, 08:25:27 AM »
A wonderful concept with lackluster execution.
Take a look at where a heavy oil ball like the Epic Battle rates out.

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shelley

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2006, 08:50:32 AM »
I like the scales that DT and Brunswick use, which describe not only the amount of hook expected, but when and how a ball hooks.  Track does a similar thing.

Hook is not something that can be summed up in a single number because there are too many factors that go into hook.  The DT/B/Track scales are not perfect either, but they allow much more accurate comparisons between balls.

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Fluff E Bunnie

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2006, 09:27:50 AM »
Well usually it is easy to compare within companies because you will get a scale and then see a reaction shape.  This "perfect" scale is supposed to be a way to compare across the board.  I am just saying that even within Storm products, this scale seems pretty messed up.
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greenefam

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2006, 09:53:40 AM »
Fluff,

These numbers are odd at best.

The only comment I would like to make is that I would expect the Thunderstruck to be less aggressive overall than the Dark Thunder.  I understand your point regarding Monsoon vs. Reactor (has been debated to death on these threads) but there are a couple of points you should keep in mind when looking at these balls:

Dark Thunder has a 1000 grit matte finish - Thunderstruck is 1500 polished.
Dark Thunder while listed as Monsoon has been reported to be reformulated Monsoon designed for medium-heavy oil.
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getuaload

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2006, 03:33:07 PM »
There scale is OK.
I have a trifecta the is rated pretty high 203 i think. It out hooks my paradigm abunch..
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JessN16

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2006, 01:25:55 AM »
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Fluff,

These numbers are odd at best.

The only comment I would like to make is that I would expect the Thunderstruck to be less aggressive overall than the Dark Thunder.  I understand your point regarding Monsoon vs. Reactor (has been debated to death on these threads) but there are a couple of points you should keep in mind when looking at these balls:

Dark Thunder has a 1000 grit matte finish - Thunderstruck is 1500 polished.
Dark Thunder while listed as Monsoon has been reported to be reformulated Monsoon designed for medium-heavy oil.


If you take a Dark Thunder down to about 600, you'll see the term "aggressive bowling ball" defined very clearly. That points to what I think is the best attribute of that ball -- it can easily be adjusted to handle a wider-than-usual range of conditions. Box condition is great for medium, taking it down to 600 makes it an oiler. I'm sure polishing it up would make it a great ball for medium-light.

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Fluff E Bunnie

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2006, 07:27:11 AM »
I am trying mine at 600 for now so we'll see!
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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2006, 01:09:15 PM »
Nothing is ever perfect....I'm sorry but it is the truth....Also, in my opiion that scale is WAY off.  I have a Vertigo and I have a Passion; and boy did they invert those numbers....Those scales are never right....Don't trust them...
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shelley

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Re: Bowlingball.com's "Perfect" Scale?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2006, 01:15:13 PM »
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Shelly,
       I hope you're not describing the Brunswick page that shows the ball going down the lane. They have the Smokin Inferno going literally 57 feet down the lane and then turning left at almost 90 degree's. I believe they have the worst visual of ball reaction of all companies. I attached a link to the page I'm talking about. If this isn't the same I apologize in advance.

http://www.brunswickbowling.com/high_performance


I think that the brunswick chart is quite accurate and shows the differences in reaction between their balls in all of their lines.  The backend of the chart just seems scrunched to me. Notice how the pins are scrunched up on the back, but the arrows are to scale with the front.


The scales in the lane graphics are messed up, agreed, but the differences in reactions are mostly true.  You can't look at one ball and expect it to react as shown.  But it does exemplify the difference between balls fairly well.

I was really talking about the numbers for hook potential, length, angularity, and so on.  "Hook" is dependent on a lot of things, and one ball with a hook potential of 125 can be different from another with the same hook potential in a lot of ways.  I don't think you can reasonably sum up all of that information in a single number.

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