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lefty50

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While we're talking about Marvels
« on: May 02, 2017, 07:41:37 PM »
I remember I always wanted to try one of the Marvels, and regretted it when I didn't. However, my failing memory tells me it was the Marvel-S that everyone loved, not the Pearl... Which Marvel was the favorite, and for what reason/characteristic?

Thinking I might pick one up, but I bought a Vandal that I see posted is a close substitute....

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Luke Morningwood

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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 10:02:54 AM »
Lots of people liked the Marvel-S as an oiler, or control ball on fresh patterns. I think even more people liked the Marvel Pearl for the way it cleared the fronts, rolled and went through the pins for them. 
It is strange sometimes how one ball out of the dozens that get developed and released to the public seems to strike a chord and go on to become so much more popular. The MP was probably the most popular, but there are many people who preferred either the original Marvel solid or the Marvel-S over the pearl, so it is a matter of personal preference. I hated my Marvel solid, so it left me pretty shy about trying the Marvel line again and I never did. I am this time, now that I have another chance.
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 10:08:17 AM »
I saw tons of Marvel-S's for fresh. It pickup up early and remained very smooth and stable throughout the lane. The Marvel Pearl was popular because it just seemed to shape a lane nicely, especially on tougher patterns. It got through the heads, read the mid hard, and was smooth and continuous on the back. The only one I owned was the Modern Marvel, which was the hybrid. Personally, I think that ball was WAY under-appreciated. I got a really, really nice shape out of that ball. It gave a really strong midlane read and was smooth and strong on the back and through the pins. When I got lined up with that one, I was hard to beat. I never saw much of the original Marvel, so I can't say much on that one.
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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 10:52:25 AM »
I never had any of the Marvels, though I did drill my daughter a Marvel-S that looked good for her.  It's a symmetric core with asym strength numbers, so I'm expecting good things, but I CAN see why that strong of a roll with a smoother symmetric backend may not resonate with some people but be god-like for others.  I like chuggy and smooth stuff, so I'm hoping it will be good considering I've already ordered two of a ball I've never owned before . .
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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 11:03:16 AM »
Quote from: Gene J Kanak on May 03, 2017, 10:08:17 AM
I saw tons of Marvel-S's for fresh. It pickup up early and remained very smooth and stable throughout the lane. The Marvel Pearl was popular because it just seemed to shape a lane nicely, especially on tougher patterns. It got through the heads, read the mid hard, and was smooth and continuous on the back. The only one I owned was the Modern Marvel, which was the hybrid. Personally, I think that ball was WAY under-appreciated. I got a really, really nice shape out of that ball. It gave a really strong midlane read and was smooth and strong on the back and through the pins. When I got lined up with that one, I was hard to beat. I never saw much of the original Marvel, so I can't say much on that one.

+1

I loved my Modern Marvel. Hated the original Marvel and never tried the Pearl, but the Modern was a very consistent ball for me.

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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 11:51:08 AM »
Never had the OG Marvel, but I have thrown a Marvel S as well as owning two Marvel Pearls. The Pearl was super predictable while still reading the right part od the lane and carrying. Worked on a ton of conditions at a ton of different surfaces. The S was really good on lots of oil and offered a great amount of traction. Didn't have a Modern Marvel, but it sounds similar to what I got from my Respect at 1000 and 2000.
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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 11:51:26 AM »
Marvel Pearl is a ball that you can always rely on to get off of the end of the pattern with a strong motion. For a low RG ball it's surprisingly clean. For guys that can do a lot of different stuff with their release, you can play this ball on almost anything. The more you give it at the bottom, the more you get on the backend without it bleeding too much energy early.

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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2017, 12:48:46 PM »
How well does the MP take surface adjustments? I've ruined many balls by trying to get them back to OOB... :(
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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2017, 01:31:00 PM »
It being a pearl means you probably don't want to take it down with 500 or 1000 abralon (although I have done that to pearls before).  It should be pretty tuneable with 4000, 3000 or even 2000 by hand. I normally do need to break the factory surface on pearls and shiny solids anyway, and I would expect this ball to be the same.
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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2017, 01:36:46 PM »
I did not match up with either the Modern Marvel or Marvel-S.  The combination of the Modern Marvel and I may have been the worst ever.
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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2017, 02:49:44 PM »
Quote from: Luke Morningwood on May 03, 2017, 01:31:00 PM
It being a pearl means you probably don't want to take it down with 500 or 1000 abralon (although I have done that to pearls before).  It should be pretty tuneable with 4000, 3000 or even 2000 by hand. I normally do need to break the factory surface on pearls and shiny solids anyway, and I would expect this ball to be the same.

To each his own, but I've actually gotten a very nice reaction with a few pearl balls at 500 grit. I like doing that with weaker ones like Tropicals. It makes them far less over/under for me. Also, I've gone 500 grit plus polish on a Deranged and a few others. They seem to give a nice midlane read and offer backend motion that is strong, yet controllable.
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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2017, 03:07:25 PM »
Quote from: Gene J Kanak on May 03, 2017, 02:49:44 PM
Quote from: Luke Morningwood on May 03, 2017, 01:31:00 PM
It being a pearl means you probably don't want to take it down with 500 or 1000 abralon (although I have done that to pearls before).  It should be pretty tuneable with 4000, 3000 or even 2000 by hand. I normally do need to break the factory surface on pearls and shiny solids anyway, and I would expect this ball to be the same.



To each his own, but I've actually gotten a very nice reaction with a few pearl balls at 500 grit. I like doing that with weaker ones like Tropicals. It makes them far less over/under for me. Also, I've gone 500 grit plus polish on a Deranged and a few others. They seem to give a nice midlane read and offer backend motion that is strong, yet controllable.

I actually do agree with you completely. Latest attempt to modify a pearl was a Dare Devil at 1000, and it wasn't bad at all. A light polish may be applied later.
My reply was more intended to answer Lefty50 and his comment about having had problems ruining a ball after roughing up the surface, then trying to recreate a factory finish.
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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2017, 08:02:43 AM »
Quote from: Gene J Kanak on May 03, 2017, 02:49:44 PM
Quote from: Luke Morningwood on May 03, 2017, 01:31:00 PM
It being a pearl means you probably don't want to take it down with 500 or 1000 abralon (although I have done that to pearls before).  It should be pretty tuneable with 4000, 3000 or even 2000 by hand. I normally do need to break the factory surface on pearls and shiny solids anyway, and I would expect this ball to be the same.

To each his own, but I've actually gotten a very nice reaction with a few pearl balls at 500 grit. I like doing that with weaker ones like Tropicals. It makes them far less over/under for me. Also, I've gone 500 grit plus polish on a Deranged and a few others. They seem to give a nice midlane read and offer backend motion that is strong, yet controllable.


I completely agree with you on the earlier comment about the Modern Marvel. If that ball had a big "B" on it, it may have been one of their best balls ever, but for Strom guys, it was a unique shape (a shape that many people would need and score better with, but don't necessarily want to watch).

As far as this comment of sanding pearl balls, Mo has said more than a couple of times, if you want a great oil ball, sand a pearl. The flecks help create more traction. Same said about polishing solids, as no pearl flecks, helps it to be smoother off the dry. For what it's worth.


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Re: While we're talking about Marvels
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2017, 10:13:49 AM »
As far as this comment of sanding pearl balls, Mo has said more than a couple of times, if you want a great oil ball, sand a pearl. The flecks help create more traction. Same said about polishing solids, as no pearl flecks, helps it to be smoother off the dry. For what it's worth.


This works almost all the time for me
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