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lefty50

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IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« on: June 13, 2019, 01:27:36 PM »
I really try to avoid hype, and the original IQ Tour Pearl fell into that category (for me). I just don't see my stroker style working with .029 diff in a pearl! But, I admit I'm dangerously close to the abyss on this one. Since they've admitted this one is a straight re-release of the original, color notwithstanding, are there are strokers who had success with the original? I do remember seeing one senior in our area who seemed to absolutely kill it with the original, but I'd like to hear from others.......
Thanks in advance.
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2019, 03:47:40 PM »
IQ tour was really one of the first balls to give a controlled look on tougher patterns.  Not a ball I liked on house shots,  but a ball I could keep in play and give myself  a chance when scores were low.
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2019, 03:59:53 PM »
There were a couple good senior bowlers in my area that liked the original Pearl a lot. They are definitely speed dominate but pretty accurate
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lefty50

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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2019, 05:22:09 PM »
Hmmm. Emerald isn't out until next week, right? How the 90 YO get it already? I don't think  I have enough hand either. The comments told to you are exactly what I'm afraid will happen, but after the one guy I saw with the original, like I said, I'm nearing the abyss and may jump in... Pull me back, please........
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2019, 06:16:29 PM »
Quote from: jkirkerx on June 13, 2019, 05:02:47 PM
When the original IQ Tour Pearl came out, I wanted to get one but my friends told me I didn't have enough hand to roll it; it would go straight and be the most expensive spare ball I ever bought.

Last night, I asked who bought the IQ Tour Emerald and was told that a 90 year local bought it, and was tearing it up with it since Sunday. Ball speed of 14mph and bowls the senior league in the mornings.

I've never rolled one so I have no clue, but I did own a IQ Tour Nano and I really liked it. I sold it because I felt it lost it's Nano and went too long and got too angular. The cover just became too slow for me.

I choose the Astro PhysiX over the IQ Emerald because I really like the core and I have a Marvel Pearl that I feel is sort of similar. I'm not that into Pearl balls so I don't want to make much investment in them. I have 3 of them now and that's enough.

I was going to get an Idol Pearl but thought it might be a little over under for me, so I chose the Astro PhysiX because it's more core dominant. It's just a house shot ball for me and should be fun to bowl with.



Explain to me how a ball is “too long and angular” yet “it was too slow for you”.
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2019, 06:37:19 PM »
He probably meant it was not a fast response core/cover combination for him, so he could have more control/Predictability of the overall ball motion/reaction.

Just my observation.
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lefty50

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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2019, 06:44:11 PM »
I would read something "too long" as too slow also if I'm trying to get an earlier reaction. Sounded logical to me.
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lefty50

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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2019, 08:17:37 PM »
Got it, thanks!
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2019, 03:24:56 PM »
Quote from: jkirkerx on June 13, 2019, 05:02:47 PM
I have a Marvel Pearl that I feel is sort of similar.

Bingo for me as well. Already have an iq tour, MP and now an iq tour fusion.  Feel the MP is the more versatile pearl anyway.
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2019, 10:26:20 PM »
Quote from: lefty50 on June 13, 2019, 01:27:36 PM
I really try to avoid hype, and the original IQ Tour Pearl fell into that category (for me). I just don't see my stroker style working with .029 diff in a pearl! But, I admit I'm dangerously close to the abyss on this one. Since they've admitted this one is a straight re-release of the original, color notwithstanding, are there are strokers who had success with the original? I do remember seeing one senior in our area who seemed to absolutely kill it with the original, but I'd like to hear from others.......
Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure I agree with the premise that a given ball won't work with a given style. The lane man usually dictates what works, and what doesn't. Put down a fresh THS Christmas tree pattern with clean back-ends, and just about any ball should work. Even for a bowler with a lower rev rate.


Skid/flip pearls normally don't agree with me, but the original IQ Tour pearl (which I still have) has worked well on a narrow range of conditions. I personally like the ball when I can square up outside with fresh back-ends. Unfortunately, it's not a condition I see very often. Of course, match-up is different for everyone. 
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2019, 12:03:42 PM »
I am going to drill an IQ Tour Emerald because I like my SonIQ.   I dull the coverstock on some of my pearl balls  to get more midlane and control on the backend.  I also have a Marvel Pearl which is always in my bag.  Coverstock preparation is key so dull or polish the coverstock to read the lanes correctly for more strikes.
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2019, 12:35:02 PM »
Still on the fence. Lefty, senior, 14mph ball speed, 225 rev rate.... I'm just not sure I see it being anything but a spare ball, but I just shot my best team series at Nationals in 30 years with, of all things, a Gamebreaker2, so I'm definitely thinking I've been too hooked on oil monsters and need to start thinking in this direction.
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2019, 12:51:32 PM »
Quote from: lefty50 on June 16, 2019, 12:35:02 PM
Still on the fence. Lefty, senior, 14mph ball speed, 225 rev rate.... I'm just not sure I see it being anything but a spare ball, but I just shot my best team series at Nationals in 30 years with, of all things, a Gamebreaker2, so I'm definitely thinking I've been too hooked on oil monsters and need to start thinking in this direction.

That's possible. Also the GB2 is a good match for the team pattern this year. Yes you want to match ball to bowler but you also have to match ball to the shot
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2019, 01:39:40 PM »
I think it can work if you go with a super strong layout, and the low differential of the core gives you the option to go really strong AND get the continuous move through the pins that a 3-4 pin to pap gives you.  I drill IQs with a 4" pin, gives me good ring separation and a more continuous move without being too early or crazy. 
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Re: IQ Tour emerald and stroker player type
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2019, 02:16:11 PM »
I have around ~300 - 325 RPMs, depending on how good I'm throwing it, lol. I've had insane success with lower diff balls using stronger layouts.

I generally use a 3-4.5 inch pin-to-pap on lower diff balls, and use weight holes (or dig to china in those fingers to avoid extra holes) to get that extra oomph you might need. Right now, I'm rocking a 900 Global Truth Tour with a 45* x 4.5 x 65* layout and it's wildly continuous once it gets going! I've had IQ Tours with similar layouts and had great success.

Good luck!
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