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Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« on: October 03, 2017, 02:18:33 PM »
Seems that not that many liked this ball and I'm curious why. I see these for sale fairly cheap and am considering one. I have the street fight for a different house and with a little polish it's been a great ball. Now I'm looking for a strong pearl with a low rg and high diff.
So why did so many hate the Phaze?
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AlonzoHarris

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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2017, 02:31:48 PM »
I think it gave a motion people weren't expecting or quite wanted out of it. More hook set(ish). I've only watched others throw it though so just guessing here. Apparently after the first batch(pastel looking), all subsequent batches were money.
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2017, 03:30:27 PM »
I have a second batch one and love it, drilled it strong and adjusted cover to my liking!
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2017, 03:39:52 PM »
IMO, its motion plays well on flat sport patterns, but not a THS
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2017, 03:47:26 PM »
I demoed a phase and didn't think it was anything special.  Then I drilled a Phase 11, and it is my go to ball on a lot of flatter patterns. 
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2017, 03:56:14 PM »
I had an original batch Phaze and it was not what Storm marketed it as - a fairly strong hooking symmetrical.  For me, it was one of the weakest balls I have ever thrown.  It loped down the lane and loped some more. 

Bottom line, given the price point it originally sold at, people were not thrilled with its lack of performance. 

I have heard that the later batches did what they were marketed to be, however, by that point I was not interested to find out.
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2017, 05:39:54 PM »
It had a very weak experimental cover on a strong early R.G. core. That ball looks great in t he hands of their staffers and testers who are throwing it through the R&D phase, but for the average bowler, this ball had a very flat motion on the lanes. Rev dominant styles match up decent to it, but there's 100 other balls out there that do a better job for what this ball was intended to do.
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2017, 06:14:44 PM »
Quote from: DP3 on October 03, 2017, 05:39:54 PM
It had a very weak experimental cover on a strong early R.G. core. That ball looks great in t he hands of their staffers and testers who are throwing it through the R&D phase, but for the average bowler, this ball had a very flat motion on the lanes. Rev dominant styles match up decent to it, but there's 100 other balls out there that do a better job for what this ball was intended to do.

that's just it... AX16 is listed slightly stronger then R4S and I think the street fight is pretty strong.
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2017, 09:44:48 PM »
The first batch that went out was flawed. Something went wrong with the coverstock pour, I heard a rumor about it being too cold at some part of the process but I'm not sure what. Makes sense if you've ever seen one of the first batch Phaze balls compared to those that came out later. There is a distinct difference in looks between the two. The first batch looks kind of like pastel colors while the later ones are your typical pearl colorings.

Anyways, that's what killed the hype on it. The later batches did what they were supposed too but by then first impressions were made and they were not good. If you can get a later batch ball on the cheap I would go for it. If it's one of the first... move on.
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2017, 09:59:27 PM »
thanks for the info,Ill probably pass on the phase.
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2017, 08:48:51 AM »
First batch sucked, and to keep the hype created for sales, the first batch has to be really good. 

Instead they ROYALLY ticked me off with my piece of junk Easter egg ball. 

Everything since the first batch was a much better ball from my understanding. 
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2017, 10:29:26 PM »
The phase wasn't too bad of a ball for me.. However, it wasn't what i expected. Ever since then I've drilled more roto stuff than storm. If storm would have put an r2s pearl cover on it here in the states, I think it would have been a better ball.
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2017, 11:50:36 PM »
Quote from: tburky on October 04, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
The phase wasn't too bad of a ball for me.. However, it wasn't what i expected. Ever since then I've drilled more roto stuff than storm. If storm would have put an r2s pearl cover on it here in the states, I think it would have been a better ball.

People seemed to really like the overseas version with R2S pearl. Why Storm hasnt brought it to the masses here in the US is weird.
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Re: Storm Phaze why didnt it go well?
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 06:45:49 AM »
First batch was super super smooth.  Wasn't a very versatile ball, I liked both that I had, but I saw a use for them, when the lanes were tough or tight side to side, it was a look you don't really have with anything else in today's market.  However, on a house shot, specifically after all that hype, it wasn't good. 

Second and on batch on the other hand?  Wow it's special.  My wife has one of the second+ batch, and it's impressively good.  Imagine stronger and earlier IQ Fusion.  If that's the ball that had come out first, 5 years from now we'd have had a special edition re-release like the Marvel Pearl. 
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