Author Topic: IQ Tour Nano/low diff question (Read 6587 times)

jlee0924 · « **on:** April 19, 2015, 07:09:54 PM »

*Generally speaking* Could the IQ Tour Nano be a good candidate as the strongest ball in a sport/tournament arsenal for heavy/fresh oil? The main thing I am still a bit confused about is the low diff core in the IQ Tour series, and if 3"-5" flare would be of limited use on oily conditions as opposed to the 6"+ flare found in the Crux or 5"-6" in the Marvel S (the two Storm balls that I feel many use as their go-to ball for heavy/fresh oil).

Does this just translate to less "fresh surface" of the ball makes contact with the oil and that it would have decreased overall hook and less aggressive at the breakpoint? Is that the rationale behind the low RG/low diff cores and why they're good control balls? My knowledge is limited in the RG diff and flare specs of bowling balls.

The only reason I would even consider the IQ Tour Nano to be my go-to ball for oily conditions is because of the coverstock, and I know that the coverstock is the #1 factor in choosing a ball. Any information in helping me understand this would be helpful. Thanks.

billdozer · « **Reply #1 on:** April 19, 2015, 08:15:59 PM »

I think its for the heavy handed players that create back end looking to reduce the back end. I like my fusion...worst case scenario I have to play straighter...

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 19, 2015, 09:22:28 PM »

Quote from: jlee0924 on April 19, 2015, 07:09:54 PM

*Generally speaking* Could the IQ Tour Nano be a good candidate as the strongest ball in a sport/tournament arsenal for heavy/fresh oil? The main thing I am still a bit confused about is the low diff core in the IQ Tour series, and if 3"-5" flare would be of limited use on oily conditions as opposed to the 6"+ flare found in the Crux or 5"-6" in the Marvel S (the two Storm balls that I feel many use as their go-to ball for heavy/fresh oil).

Does this just translate to less "fresh surface" of the ball makes contact with the oil and that it would have decreased overall hook and less aggressive at the breakpoint? Is that the rationale behind the low RG/low diff cores and why they're good control balls? My knowledge is limited in the RG diff and flare specs of bowling balls.

The only reason I would even consider the IQ Tour Nano to be my go-to ball for oily conditions is because of the coverstock, and I know that the coverstock is the #1 factor in choosing a ball. Any information in helping me understand this would be helpful. Thanks.

In my opinion; the Nano works best for those that are rev dominate to speed/rev matched. People who are rev dominate do not need core help as much as people who are speed dominate. I am sure there may be exceptions to this. But if someone is rev dominate; why would they need a strong core? Guys that have high rev rates looking to go straighter and control the backend would love the IQ series because of the low diff. Bowlers that are more speed dominate to speed/rev matched are going to prefer balls like the Crux series and balls like the Sync because the stronger core gives the lower rev rate players help. But again, there may be exceptions to this such as playing on short patterns where even the lower rev rate guys need some control. But on most medium to heavier patterns; low rev rate and speed dominate players will prefer balls with stronger cores.

GlobalDestruction · « **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2015, 09:16:33 AM »

I agree totally with the last post. I have the solid IQ Tour and love it. I can play anywhere I want on any condition I've thrown it on so far until the heads go away. I am a rev dominate player with above average ball speed so it gives that control at the breakpoint.

ITZPS · « **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2015, 10:38:16 AM »

Yeah, I find the Nano to be my best option on heavy oil, specifically because it doesn't flare off the planet. It gets down the lane and still has punch and continuation, and when you're on tournament conditions that are longer or heavier in the middle, you still need that when you get deep, which is something that most higher diff tanks don't have. The Nano is definitely my go to ball on medium to long and medium to heavy sport conditions, it hooks enough to be usable on super wet.

spmcgivern · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2015, 10:58:30 AM »

For those heavy handed bowlers, at what point does the core prevent you from optimizing your carry when moving deep inside? I have seen many rev dominant bowlers with IQ series balls have some trouble when moving deep. It seems at times a stronger core will still benefit rev dominant bowlers when the launch angles get extreme.

What are your observations TWOHAND834 and GlobalDestruction?

ITZPS · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2015, 12:31:08 PM »

For heavy handed bowlers moving deeper, bigger hooking balls with stronger cores that already aren't meant to be played with a lot of angle tend to burn up, flare out, or not be able to make the corner strongly. The RG on the C3 core is low enough to get the ball rolling and revving, while the diff allows it to get down the lane before it does it. If heavy handed guys are struggling when moving deep with those, they aren't making good moves or they're playing the lanes wrong. Stronger cores aren't meant to play extreme angles, they're for strength and stability in soup, not for backend from 5th or 6th arrow.

Quote from: spmcgivern on April 20, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

For those heavy handed bowlers, at what point does the core prevent you from optimizing your carry when moving deep inside? I have seen many rev dominant bowlers with IQ series balls have some trouble when moving deep. It seems at times a stronger core will still benefit rev dominant bowlers when the launch angles get extreme.

What are your observations TWOHAND834 and GlobalDestruction?

GlobalDestruction · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2015, 01:35:56 PM »

I've had no issues with carry with the solid. In fact I've noticed that since this line of balls don't have that real jerk reaction off the dry that it retains more energy. Its the ultimate control ball and I love it!!

avabob · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2015, 03:18:33 PM »

I think it is about core shell matchup and rev rate. As a low rev guy I still found the IQT solid to be an exceptional ball, but I don't take it inside very often. Higher rev guys might easily do that, although most high rev guys I have seen still tend to use it further right than I might expect from them.

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:00:49 AM »

Quote from: spmcgivern on April 20, 2015, 10:58:30 AM

For those heavy handed bowlers, at what point does the core prevent you from optimizing your carry when moving deep inside? I have seen many rev dominant bowlers with IQ series balls have some trouble when moving deep. It seems at times a stronger core will still benefit rev dominant bowlers when the launch angles get extreme.

What are your observations TWOHAND834 and GlobalDestruction?

For me; if the core has a really low diff; the ball lacks angle from deeper inside to carry the corners. When I get deeper; I have a Violent Eruption with a P4 hole so that it helps it to change direction. But I also didnt drill the VE to play the track either. Rule of thumb is smoother rolling stuff playng outside and more skid/flip type reaction when playing deeper (there are exceptions to this at times).

EX: I have a Deep Freeze drillled 40 by 5 by 30 and weight hole on P4. The diff is only .028 OOB so wanted to give the core a little help with that P4. Ball still only flares about 2.5 inches. Ball is money playing outside to about 17 at the arrows. As I approach 4th arrow; that ball simply isnt enough on the backend to carry the corners if there is a hint of carrydown or the pattern plays long. That is when I ball up to my Violent. Cover strength is a little more but the difference is the core. Its a lower RG and the diff is higher so I get more backend entry angle from playing deeper on the lane.

I have a teammate that has a IQ Nano with weight hole on P3. The cover is plenty strong to read the pattern. But even with his 19-20 mph at release and 400+ rpms, when he goes to much left to right with his angles; his carry percentage decreases. When he squares his angles up; his carry percentage is very high.

spmcgivern · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2015, 11:04:59 AM »

Quote from: TWOHAND834 on April 21, 2015, 10:00:49 AM

Quote from: spmcgivern on April 20, 2015, 10:58:30 AM
For those heavy handed bowlers, at what point does the core prevent you from optimizing your carry when moving deep inside? I have seen many rev dominant bowlers with IQ series balls have some trouble when moving deep. It seems at times a stronger core will still benefit rev dominant bowlers when the launch angles get extreme.

What are your observations TWOHAND834 and GlobalDestruction?

For me; if the core has a really low diff; the ball lacks angle from deeper inside to carry the corners. When I get deeper; I have a Violent Eruption with a P4 hole so that it helps it to change direction. But I also didnt drill the VE to play the track either. Rule of thumb is smoother rolling stuff playng outside and more skid/flip type reaction when playing deeper (there are exceptions to this at times).

EX: I have a Deep Freeze drillled 40 by 5 by 30 and weight hole on P4. The diff is only .028 OOB so wanted to give the core a little help with that P4. Ball still only flares about 2.5 inches. Ball is money playing outside to about 17 at the arrows. As I approach 4th arrow; that ball simply isnt enough on the backend to carry the corners if there is a hint of carrydown or the pattern plays long. That is when I ball up to my Violent. Cover strength is a little more but the difference is the core. Its a lower RG and the diff is higher so I get more backend entry angle from playing deeper on the lane.

I have a teammate that has a IQ Nano with weight hole on P3. The cover is plenty strong to read the pattern. But even with his 19-20 mph at release and 400+ rpms, when he goes to much left to right with his angles; his carry percentage decreases. When he squares his angles up; his carry percentage is very high.

This is my experience also. I have tried to get others to move to stronger cored equipment when they get inside but sometimes to no avail. There was a two-hander youth at a tournament that relied on his IQ tour stuff almost to a fault. Extremely talented and very good bowler. Just wish he would have moved to perhaps something in the RG line when he moved in deep because his carry was spotty.

gradilonec · « **Reply #11 on:** April 22, 2015, 07:42:29 AM »

It's deff for control. I have specs that lead to some pretty violent/hard to predict moves off the dry with higher dif stuff, yet I wouldnt mind a higher rg for some length. I just ahine-r-up to fix that.

The iq line has easily my favorite

ITZPS · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2015, 09:07:09 AM »

Well, we also have to remember that solid covers aren't great for big angles either. Given that you make the correct moves at the correct time, I can play the solid and the Nano from anywhere, but if you're expecting angle in soup from low diff balls, it isn't going to happen. You can get a stronger finish from deep with higher diff balls, yes, but that's provided the oil volume is there. There are just too many variables to say definitively one way or the other, because you change one or two and the whole situation is different.

BeerLeague · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2015, 07:27:33 AM »

I'm a little late to this party but I'll reply anyway ...

I have had great luck with the IQ series of balls. Currently have IQ Nano and 2 IQ Tour Solids. I think the low diff or the cores makes them more controllable off the spot and not so over/under like a lot of the big core stuff out there.

I believe the more hand you have, the more you will like these. Also bowlers with lo tilt numbers or a natural side roll (Think PDW) will do well with these. It did take a small adjustment in reading ball reaction since they are so smooth through the front and you really can watch the entire transition and get a read on the lane you can trust.

I hope they never stop with this line of equipment. I think you could make a 4-5 ball arsenal out of the Nano, Solid, and Fusion and need nothing else.

billdozer · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2015, 08:09:39 AM »

Uses it last night at my hooking center with synthetics....ball was perfect!

Perfect midlane, tons of control off the spot.

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