I agree that the Dark Thunder is a good ball, but be careful that you are buying it for the right use. As Mr. Bunnie has mentioned this is a great SMOOTH ball - but it is absolutely not an Ultimate Inferno replacement. Dark Thunder is a medium oil ball - not a heavy oil ball by any stretch. I'd look at the Special Agent as an Ultimate replacement... It will be stronger and more continuous. Dark Thunder would be a replacment for a midrange ball like a Vapor Zone (not exact, similar condition).