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!Q Tour Pearl 2018 Remake
« on: April 21, 2018, 07:47:19 PM »
Over here in Oz I have been informed by my distributor that storm are bringing back the !Q Tour Pearl as a limited edition.

Has anybody else heard heard the same? As I haven’t heard from anyone overseas saying the same thing yet.


Looking forward to having the nugget back in the bag, I’ve missed it!

 

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Re: !Q Tour Pearl 2018 Remake
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2018, 07:19:05 AM »
9/ to X could be as simple as plugging a weight hole or raising the surface.

 Or throwing it better, which nobody ever mentions in this “modern” era.

 It isn’t always the ball.

 Not picking out, or on, anyone with this, it is merely an observation I have made that is so different philosophically from when I was learning to bowl. Back “in the day”, if you weren’t knocking out the corners (especially tenpins for righties, or sevenpins for lefties) it was considered that you just weren’t throwing it good enough.

 Now days, you leave a seven or a ten, and it is “Change balls” or “Changes surfaces” or “Change lines”, when back in the earlier times, it was “Throw it better”.

 God forbid that you try to tell anybody these days that they throw it bad. That couldn’t POSSIBLY be the reason they’re not striking.

 Nobody throws it bad anymore, they’re just using the wrong ball, with the wrong drilling or surface, at the wrong time.

 
« Last Edit: June 24, 2018, 07:21:57 AM by Juggernaut »
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Re: !Q Tour Pearl 2018 Remake
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2018, 09:57:48 AM »
9/ to X could be as simple as plugging a weight hole or raising the surface.

 Or throwing it better, which nobody ever mentions in this “modern” era.

 It isn’t always the ball.

 Not picking out, or on, anyone with this, it is merely an observation I have made that is so different philosophically from when I was learning to bowl. Back “in the day”, if you weren’t knocking out the corners (especially tenpins for righties, or sevenpins for lefties) it was considered that you just weren’t throwing it good enough.

 Now days, you leave a seven or a ten, and it is “Change balls” or “Changes surfaces” or “Change lines”, when back in the earlier times, it was “Throw it better”.

 God forbid that you try to tell anybody these days that they throw it bad. That couldn’t POSSIBLY be the reason they’re not striking.

 Nobody throws it bad anymore, they’re just using the wrong ball, with the wrong drilling or surface, at the wrong time.

 

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Re: !Q Tour Pearl 2018 Remake
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2018, 02:29:58 PM »
9/ to X could be as simple as plugging a weight hole or raising the surface.

 Or throwing it better, which nobody ever mentions in this “modern” era.

 It isn’t always the ball.

 Not picking out, or on, anyone with this, it is merely an observation I have made that is so different philosophically from when I was learning to bowl. Back “in the day”, if you weren’t knocking out the corners (especially tenpins for righties, or sevenpins for lefties) it was considered that you just weren’t throwing it good enough.

 Now days, you leave a seven or a ten, and it is “Change balls” or “Changes surfaces” or “Change lines”, when back in the earlier times, it was “Throw it better”.

 God forbid that you try to tell anybody these days that they throw it bad. That couldn’t POSSIBLY be the reason they’re not striking.

 Nobody throws it bad anymore, they’re just using the wrong ball, with the wrong drilling or surface, at the wrong time.

Won't argue this point a bit.  If anything the ball is doing a good job of getting me 9 instead of even less.  In general I tend to do better with at least medium diff (Hy-Road is so perfect) balls so yeah ball is just doing what it was built for and the problem is mostly user error along with a lack of hand.  Still far from the first person to complain about that ball being a tap machine but it does get bad shots to pocket about as well as any ball you will find.  Other huge advantage ball has is ball doesn't eat up its own shot either.  Love how consistent it was for all four games in the no tap tournament I bowled yesterday whereas in the later games started seeing serious over under and very inconsistent scores from the other bowlers on our pair using stronger pieces whose scores went down as mine kept going up.  I make fun but that ball probably ended up getting me at least 30+ pins more than any other ball would in my arsenal.  It really is the ultimate no tap ball.
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Re: !Q Tour Pearl 2018 Remake
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2018, 12:06:36 AM »
9/ to X could be as simple as plugging a weight hole or raising the surface.

 Or throwing it better, which nobody ever mentions in this “modern” era.

 It isn’t always the ball.

 Not picking out, or on, anyone with this, it is merely an observation I have made that is so different philosophically from when I was learning to bowl. Back “in the day”, if you weren’t knocking out the corners (especially tenpins for righties, or sevenpins for lefties) it was considered that you just weren’t throwing it good enough.

 Now days, you leave a seven or a ten, and it is “Change balls” or “Changes surfaces” or “Change lines”, when back in the earlier times, it was “Throw it better”.

 God forbid that you try to tell anybody these days that they throw it bad. That couldn’t POSSIBLY be the reason they’re not striking.

 Nobody throws it bad anymore, they’re just using the wrong ball, with the wrong drilling or surface, at the wrong time.
What does "throwing it better" mean to you? I am not shy to say when I felt I threw the ball terrible or not good enough. I rarely face calling a particular ball a tap machine, but I have had carry issues before. Once bowled a tournament where I left 5 10 pins in a row. I tried to make an adjustment after the 3 one in a row (trying to avoid the overthinking mentality), but clearly that wasn't the issue. I feel it's more so my ball roll wasn't matching up to that pair, but does that mean to you that I didn't throw it well? This is especially questionable to me on tougher patterns when finding the pocket is already tough enough.
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Re: !Q Tour Pearl 2018 Remake
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2018, 10:28:55 AM »
   What does "throwing it better" mean to you? I am not shy to say when I felt I threw the ball terrible or not good enough. I rarely face calling a particular ball a tap machine, but I have had carry issues before. Once bowled a tournament where I left 5 10 pins in a row. I tried to make an adjustment after the 3 one in a row (trying to avoid the overthinking mentality), but clearly that wasn't the issue. I feel it's more so my ball roll wasn't matching up to that pair, but does that mean to you that I didn't throw it well? This is especially questionable to me on tougher patterns when finding the pocket is already tough enough.

 I could try to analyze this all day, but that would only be a fruitless endeavor, as the basic philosophy of bowling theory has changed so much, that many of my comments would probably be deriden by cries of elitism from those who would miss the point entirely.

 In short, to “throw it better” harkens to a philosophy that, if you ARE hitting the pocket consistently, and are NOT carrying consistently, then there is a flaw in the way you are doing some aspect of your release that you need to correct to eliminate the carry problem.

 It isn’t quantifiable, because it isn’t the same problem for everyone. Some people throw it too fast. Some, too slow. Others “spin” the ball too much, some roll it too early.

 â€œThrowing it better” means the ability to analyze what the problem is, why you are not carrying, and correct it with physical abilities and techniques instead of trying to fix it with equipment.
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Re: !Q Tour Pearl 2018 Remake
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2018, 11:55:44 AM »
   What does "throwing it better" mean to you? I am not shy to say when I felt I threw the ball terrible or not good enough. I rarely face calling a particular ball a tap machine, but I have had carry issues before. Once bowled a tournament where I left 5 10 pins in a row. I tried to make an adjustment after the 3 one in a row (trying to avoid the overthinking mentality), but clearly that wasn't the issue. I feel it's more so my ball roll wasn't matching up to that pair, but does that mean to you that I didn't throw it well? This is especially questionable to me on tougher patterns when finding the pocket is already tough enough.

 I could try to analyze this all day, but that would only be a fruitless endeavor, as the basic philosophy of bowling theory has changed so much, that many of my comments would probably be deriden by cries of elitism from those who would miss the point entirely.

 In short, to “throw it better” harkens to a philosophy that, if you ARE hitting the pocket consistently, and are NOT carrying consistently, then there is a flaw in the way you are doing some aspect of your release that you need to correct to eliminate the carry problem.

 It isn’t quantifiable, because it isn’t the same problem for everyone. Some people throw it too fast. Some, too slow. Others “spin” the ball too much, some roll it too early.

 â€œThrowing it better” means the ability to analyze what the problem is, why you are not carrying, and correct it with physical abilities and techniques instead of trying to fix it with equipment.
Understood and I appreciate the input. I have to say there are a ton of bowlers that never try to make a physical adjustment.
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Re: !Q Tour Pearl 2018 Remake
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2018, 09:23:21 PM »
And never will try to either.