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kleptic

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rad is not 6 3/4 from pin?
« on: September 26, 2007, 09:20:03 PM »
i have a triple xtreme and the rad marking is not 6 3/4 inches from the pin like i've known MB to be. are storm balls different or is the rad marking just showing the line the MB is on and not the right distance or what?

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Strider

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Re: rad is not 6 3/4 from pin?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 07:00:00 AM »
6 3/4" from pin to MB is just an approximation used for symmetric balls.  Don't worry if a marked MB is a little different; use what is marked on an asymmetric ball.
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Re: rad is not 6 3/4 from pin?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 07:03:10 AM »
To add to what Strider said...

...if your shop has a determinator have them spin the ball up to see where the MB really is.  In most cases it's marked accurately...but I've seen some that where surprisingly off (rare case).
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Re: rad is not 6 3/4 from pin?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 09:37:41 AM »
Normally, a PSA mark like the RAD on Storm, HMB on Hammer or the clear pins on Brunswick/Morich equipment come from a second pin that is protruding from the core in a 90° angle to the pin. The ball is then poured, and the PSA marker will tell the core's PSA and position within the ball.

However, there are production differences, and since no core is locked in the same position from ball to ball, there are variancies in CG and PSA placement. If the core is shifted to one side, pin, CG and PSA marker can be off-line (sometimes very weird, rare occasion), and the distance between pin and PSA marker can be more or less than the theoretical 6 3/4", e. g. if the core is shifted "away" from the area where the PSA marker comes through the ball's surface.

Anyway, I would not bother with it unless pin and PSA are on opposite position, and only a huge displacement of pin, CG and PSA should cause concern.
If it is a strong MB ball, just use the PSA marker since this will be the axis the core want to migrate to when it rotates. And, as a final advice, have your ball driller check the markings before drilling on a do do scale and determinator, if there is something fishy about the ball.
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shelley

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Re: rad is not 6 3/4 from pin?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2007, 10:27:43 AM »
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Normally, a PSA mark like the RAD on Storm, HMB on Hammer or the clear pins on Brunswick/Morich equipment come from a second pin that is protruding from the core in a 90° angle to the pin. The ball is then poured, and the PSA marker will tell the core's PSA and position within the ball.


I don't think that's true except for the Brunswick-made asyms.  Morich and, for a while, Lane 1, had a little white plastic pin to mark the MB like the Zone series does.  But other manufacturers just put an engraving over the MB, there's no secondary pin.

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Re: rad is not 6 3/4 from pin?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2007, 10:44:21 PM »
Some of storm rad balls were 7" mass bias I believe.

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Re: rad is not 6 3/4 from pin?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2007, 11:02:11 PM »
Saw a Vertigo the other day without a RAD marking... I was perplexed until I picked it up.  Storm doesn't use a asymmetric core in lightweight versions of their asymmetric pieces so there won't be a MB mark on it.
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