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bowler851

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Invasion not for THS.
« on: February 11, 2010, 04:51:47 AM »
I have 3 games on it and gave it back to my pro shop it burns up if not enough oil and when playing deeper to find oil gets to much length and will not carry the corner pins. I suggest waiting for the pearl to come out unless you have money to burn.
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Re: Invasion not for THS.
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2010, 11:05:31 PM »
i'm thinking about selling mine...i have about 20 games on it.
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flybub

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2010, 04:17:24 AM »
We had our City Tournament last week and during team even 3 guys on the same pair threw their Invasions.  Right now 2 of those 3 are leading all events and I never saw them throw anything but their Invasion.

In team they went: 828, 792, 788.  By the way, there was also 2 Mutant Cells on that pair with them as well.
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The Stroke

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Re: Invasion not for THS.
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2010, 07:35:52 AM »
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I agree. I saw a guy on Monday night using a dull as can be Virtual Gravity on a THS that broke down after a game, and this guy has no idea why he's leaving 5-7's in the hole.

Ball was burning up off his hand and he had no clue.


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my friend shot 826 with it on a house shot 2 days ago, lol.

... and his rev rate is 450.


AND the return of Moyer?


God this is like troll heaven.  BR is full steam ahead!!


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The Stroke

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Re: Invasion not for THS.
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2010, 08:29:03 AM »
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I'm of the thinking that you should be able to use any ball on any condition.  it's just a matter of adjusting your physical game, no?  

As a side note...Weren't the storm guys throwing Storms Strongest ball of all time, the Invasion, on the Cheetah Pattern during the Chris Paul invitational last week?


That's because it was a gimmick event and I would probably be my bottom dollar they were throwing it for advertisement.
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Chubbs

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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2010, 08:33:24 AM »
Most were throwing the Invasion, yes, but purely for advertising purposes.  Norm Duke was throwing a Fast, though.

As far as being able to use any ball on any condition: "You can''t outbowl a bad ball reaction." -Mo Pinel
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Dan Belcher

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2010, 08:33:53 AM »
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As a side note...wasn''t pretty much everyon throwing the Invasion, on the Cheetah Pattern during the Chris Paul invitational last week?  I mean, The Cheetahs not really known for overwhelming amounts of long heavy oil is it?
To be fair, while that was mostly just for marketing purposes, there is a lot to be said for throwing a strong, rolly ball on the Cheetah. It can help control the back of the pattern and make the ball more controllable off the spot, which is pretty helpful on fresh oil on the Cheetah. There's a heavy volume of oil up front and a lot of clean backend, so the ball can get pretty skid/flippy until the heads start to go a little bit and the backends get a little more blended. I've had some success throwing a Dimension on the Cheetah before, just the same as I've had success throwing a Mars on it.
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SVstar34

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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2010, 08:36:25 AM »
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I think that was obvious.  But they were strking with it.  My point was simply that, theoretically you could make any ball work on any condition if you can adjust your physical game to make it work.


You can only adjust your physical game so much, no one has unlimited ability.

As far as the last fun show, Belmo and Weber threw the Invasion. Weber had a tough time holding pocket and Belmo switched to his plastic ball. Invasion-Plastic, huge difference there and it screams wrong ball choice in the first place.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Invasion not for THS.
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2010, 08:38:03 AM »
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I think that was obvious.  But they were strking with it.  My point was simply that, theoretically you could make any ball work on any condition if you can adjust your physical game to make it work.
Technically I can get a plastic ball to work on a fresh Shark pattern, but it's not exactly a good idea.  Carry percentage and mistake room won't exactly be the best. You can make pretty much any ball "work" to some degree, but you're really limiting your consistency and scoring potential if you're trying to throw an oiler that's got a 1000 grit surface on it when the heads are hooking. You can get it to the pocket with some energy left if you throw it 28 mph with a ton of tilt, but that isn't exactly the best option.
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Sir Bowl-A-Lot

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Re: Invasion not for THS.
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2010, 12:01:30 PM »
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As a side note...wasn''t pretty much everyon throwing the Invasion, on the Cheetah Pattern during the Chris Paul invitational last week?  I mean, The Cheetahs not really known for overwhelming amounts of long heavy oil is it?

Isn't the "old" Cheetah pattern 35' while the "new" Cheetah pattern is 39'?  If so, that's a big difference.
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Dan Belcher

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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2010, 12:22:34 PM »
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Isn't the "old" Cheetah pattern 35' while the "new" Cheetah pattern is 39'?  If so, that's a big difference.
Nope. Last year they extended the Cheetah to 36', but this year they've brought it back to 35'.
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Sir Bowl-A-Lot

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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2010, 12:24:39 PM »
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Isn't the "old" Cheetah pattern 35' while the "new" Cheetah pattern is 39'?  If so, that's a big difference.
Nope. Last year they extended the Cheetah to 36', but this year they've brought it back to 35'.

Then I fail to see how any amount of polish would keep the Invasion from burning-up on this shot.
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Dan Belcher

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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2010, 12:28:41 PM »
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Isn't the "old" Cheetah pattern 35' while the "new" Cheetah pattern is 39'?  If so, that's a big difference.
Nope. Last year they extended the Cheetah to 36', but this year they've brought it back to 35'.

Then I fail to see how any amount of polish would keep the Invasion from burning-up on this shot.
The Cheetah is an interesting oil pattern.  Because it can get jumpy and unpredictable, sometimes you want the ball to burn up just to make it more consistent and predictable.  (Watch Chris Barnes bowl on the Cheetah and you'll see he quite often uses a very end-over-end release with stronger balls to do just that.)  However, that's all very dependent on circumstances.  Like I said, I've used everything from a Dimension to a Mars and even plastic on the Cheetah depending on how the shot played that day and who else was on my pair.
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