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Nano labors in heavy oil any suggestions.
OOB 45/4/25 P4 HOLE
AMF HPL LANES 45 FT THS
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OOB surface prep is 4K, put some surface on it, suggest something like 2K for starters. I don't really know what else to tell you, mine is great on oil.
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Mine was a little over/under with the 4000 OOB finish originally. I ended up sanding it with 2000AB and then a light hand sanding at 4000. The 2000 really helped the cover out a lot and gave me a much better reaction to where I really enjoy using it.
My arsenal
Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 4000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Still to be determined
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished
Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
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Add more surface to your ball, 2000 or maybe 1000.
Tommy Gollick
Storm Regional/Pro Shop staff
Red Crown Pro Shop Harrisburg, PA
stormbowling.com
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I just picked up a Nano to bring to Nationals next month.. Would you recommend bringing it down to 2000 from 4000 for an up the boards stroker with about a rev rate of 275-300 ?
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We've taken this ball from 500grit with a fresh abralon pad for a stroker on the mexico city pattern to shined 4000 with a reacta shine or two coating and it worked for everyone so far. if the ball is"labouring" it might be loosing energy?
the box finish at 4000 and then trying to reproduce the 4000 on a spinner gave me different results, the OOB for me felt little closer to a 2000 grit pad.
Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec-Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
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The oil pattern is to long for that layout. The ball is burned up before the end of the pattern
Chris
BuddiesProShop.com
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Box condition Nano will burn off energy very quick off the break point with the result in flat 10's. This is especially a problem for guys who like to cover a lot of boards on a house shot. Not sure what you can do to the surface to alleviate this problem other than high polish, which will cause over/under on house shots. I like my Nano better on flatter longer tourney patterns for carry.
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I have the same issue with my nano.
So, is the consenus to go to 2,000? It sounds like there are a few of you saying that 2,000 will give more hook but it will also cause it to loose revs by the time it hits the pins.
Is that what everybody is saying?
Thanks
MK
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OOB, I was leaving flat 10's playing straighter. Covering more boards by swinging, I had initial over/under with the reaction. By taking it to 2000, I got more out of the backend which helped solve the flat 10 issue. It also helped solve the initial over/under issue that I had with covering more boards. The cover is really good with surface changes so feel free to experiment with it. 2000 on the spinner followed by a really light 4000 by hand got it exactly where I want it: a strong arc that is controllable while reading the midlane well and hitting the pins hard with good carry.
My arsenal
Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 4000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Still to be determined
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished
Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
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That's what I did to mine as well and it seemed much better afterwards.
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I recently drilled my nano. with only a few shots thrown i noticed alot of over under. i had read this thread before i bought it. my question now is how hard did you hit yours with the 2000 pad, how much if any water on the pad, then how hard with the 4000 pad. thanks in advance for any and all replies.
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Buddies hit the nail on the head. Longer pins and a bit smoother covers have worked great on the Nanos we've drilled in our centers that have HPL surfaces.
Joel Ricketts
Pins and Needles Pro Shops
Bowlers Junction
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To get it to 2000, here is what I did (based on factory specs):
1) Using 500 Abralon or Siaair, go firm on all 4 sides of the ball for 30 secs.
2) Using 2000 Abralon or Siaair, go light on all 4 sides for 10 secs.
It's best if you have a spinner to do this but can easily be done by hand. I didn't do any wet sanding with it. After hitting the ball with 2000, I did use Storm Reacta Clean to clean it up.
For a while, I was hitting it really light with 4000 (5 secs on all 4 sides) but decided to leave it at 2000 after I liked the results. Just make sure whenever throwing the Nano, I find longer oil/heavier volumes work out best. Usually when I am at 2 of the houses I like to bowl at (43ft heavy volume at 1, 45ft Route 66 at the other), the Nano comes out first. After that, I then progress down to the Anarchy, Nomad Dagger, or Rising Star depending on conditions.
My arsenal
Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished
Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished
Edited by tommyboy74 on 6/25/2011 at 3:17 PM
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For what it's worth, I've been using a Nano since they first came out. I loved the oob finish until it was time for it's first tune up. Seems for me, the ball now works really well for about 6-9 games after touching up the coverstock, if I've been playing in heavy oil. What I've read about this ball being high maintenance is absolutely true for me. Even though they say it has a 4000 abralon finish, I've read somewhere where it had been checked and was actually under 1000. Seems they use 500 grit abralon on the ball and briefly and lightly hit it with 4000 just to round the peaks a bit. I just took mine off the spinner and left it at 500, hoping it does better in heavy oil. I agree with the above post. Seems my nano also labors in heavy oil. Contradictory to what's supposed to happen, it seems I get better back end reaction using my nano on med to med/light shots when it appears it's burning up it's energy through the front and middle.... Something is definitely different about this ball, but I love it, most of the time!
I'd love to hear what others have tried for surface with a nano and their results...I've noticed not many of the pros are currently throwing them since it's big debut.
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May I make a couple of suggestions and a couple of notes .... (I'm sure most of you know this, but sometimes a mental refresher helps us all.)
1. When a ball is finished to P500 grit, then P4000 grit, remember that P4000 grit surface is very sensitive to use. That is, the P4000 grit disappears and changes over a relatively short period of games bowled, depending on both the roughness of the lane surface AND the amount of revs the bowler has.If both are high, the period of time before the ball's surface needs to be refreshed will be shorter. The first couple of times, you probably just need to refresh the "4000 grit "layer". Maybe every 2-3 times, you need to refresh the whole ball with both the P500 grit underlayment and the P4000 grit surface layer.
2. Such balls have a fairly rough underlayment (P500 grit), and those large surfaces are used to absorb oil and they absorb oil rapidly especially when used on heavy oil. That means they need to have the oil extracted professionally and/or thoroughly, much more frequently than ordinary balls. That might be as early as 25 games or as long as 50 - 75 games. Only the bowler watching the progress of the ball from day to day can determine when it needs oil extraction. But if you don't do it, you will soon have a $250 light oil ball.
3. With such strong balls, as the Nano (and make no mistake, it seems to be as powerful as the original Virtual Gravity was, in terms of carry power.) you have to have a very sharp eye to determine whether the ball is burning up because there's not enough oil OR if it actually needs more surface. Your ball speed/rev rate ratio is a VERY important factor in this equation. The higher your ball speed is the more likely you need more surface. I'd bet in the case of many of you who might be thinking you need more surface on your Nano, you probably actually need less.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."