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Miffy1980

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Natural no longe in production?
« on: May 27, 2010, 02:05:16 PM »
Is that true?
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2010, 04:03:59 PM »
Who cares, this ball was a flop for the most part.  It had good reaction but pin carry suffered.  

If you want a good urethane ball with GREAT reaction and superb pin carry get yourself an AMF Hype Urethane!  It is hands down one of the best balls that I have ever thrown.  

I tried to stick with AMF/Global for about 2 years and had nothing to show for it, I have since gone to Storm/Roto and made a huge turn around since X-mas so they are my guys.  I just can't say enough about that one ball.

Not to mention the core is kind of similar to the old SD-73....
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2010, 04:45:45 PM »
Anythings possible, but if it is, rotogrip is just now starting to make the new grenade, so storm/roto fans will still have that option.
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2010, 04:52:00 PM »
urethane with the sd-73 core is the ROTOGRIP - MTX urethane type

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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 05:06:39 PM »
wow the Natural is a great ball if you know how to throw it for I have done very well with it. Six in state in doubles and also a 298 with it and a 748 series. I'm sorry but not every ball is going to match up with everyone who trys to throw it.
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2010, 08:29:37 PM »
natural is a nasty ball for when the time is right to use it
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2010, 11:46:51 PM »
I agree with the last 2 posters.....the Natural is the kind of ball that will tell you within 2 shots if it's the right time to use the ball.

When the conditions are right the ball is devastating. If you are trying to force the ball to work on a condition that is less than ideal the ball will look bad.
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 01:01:15 AM »
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Is that true?


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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 01:01:38 AM »
Natural is the best ball in my bag. This whole year ive only throw 3 balls and when the lanes are dry  ive shot my best sets with this ball, including my highest series of all time.
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 02:20:28 AM »
The Natural is far from being a Flop of a ball, you want a flop of a ball look at the Radical Inferno.....

I use my natural A LOT! The last 3 months of leauge I used that ball exclusivly. Shot 630+ every night with it playing up 10 board most of the night. Maybe move a board or 2 by the end of the night to retain pin carry.

If the ball is being discontinued then that will be storms worst decision in a while.

The AMF Hype is not a true urethane because it has solid mixed into the coverstock which causes that "urethane" to hook more then the natural. The Natural uses no pearl or solid additives hance the name "NATURAL"!
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 05:22:18 AM »
I always heard that the AMF Hype Urethane has the same cover from the AMF Angles and to my knowledge that was pure urethane, but it wouldnt be the first time I herd something that was wrong.
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 06:16:21 AM »
It may be a great ball, but that doesn't mean great sales numbers. Tour players loving it also doesn't equal great sales.

Most don't bowl on those conditions. Most of the tour players that were using it with success were those with higher rev rates. I saw a few local average bowlers throwing this ball and had little to no real success. They didn't have the higher rev rate and the ball was just a bit too much on the weak side for them.

It may be a flop in overall sales but that doesn't mean the ball its self is the problem. It just falls into a nitch market for many. We will see over the next year or two with other companies releasing similar products if the overall concept of bringing back urethane will continue.
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2010, 07:59:50 AM »
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It may be a great ball, but that doesn't mean great sales numbers. Tour players loving it also doesn't equal great sales.

Most don't bowl on those conditions. Most of the tour players that were using it with success were those with higher rev rates. I saw a few local average bowlers throwing this ball and had little to no real success. They didn't have the higher rev rate and the ball was just a bit too much on the weak side for them.

It may be a flop in overall sales but that doesn't mean the ball its self is the problem. It just falls into a nitch market for many. We will see over the next year or two with other companies releasing similar products if the overall concept of bringing back urethane will continue.
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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2010, 10:14:03 AM »
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The Natural is far from being a Flop of a ball, you want a flop of a ball look at the Radical Inferno.....

I use my natural A LOT! The last 3 months of leauge I used that ball exclusivly. Shot 630+ every night with it playing up 10 board most of the night. Maybe move a board or 2 by the end of the night to retain pin carry.

If the ball is being discontinued then that will be storms worst decision in a while.

The AMF Hype is not a true urethane because it has solid mixed into the coverstock which causes that "urethane" to hook more then the natural. The Natural uses no pearl or solid additives hance the name "NATURAL"!
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Wow, it's amazing what you read around here.

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=244112&ForumID=1&CategoryID=2

 
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There has been some speculation as to the authenticity of todays "Urethane" balls. For instance, a rep here in my area said that the Natural by Storm, marketed urethane, is actually a blended cover combining reactive parts with urethane parts.  



And from a response later in the thread:

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From the Black Angle info sheet it is a blended urethane F-20, the AMF site states the Hype only as F-20 urethane, if I'm not mistaken a conversation a short time back with Eric I believed he said it was the same cover as on the Black Angle, the difference being the Hype has a strong core pushing the tires.


So many people saying so many things, how do we know the truth?


Urethane, blended, solid additives, pearl additives, slip agents, etc.  Does it really matter?  If the ball works I don't really care what the coverstock is!

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r534me

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Re: Natural no longe in production?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2010, 07:10:48 PM »
And what's the answer?  In production still?
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