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agroves

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Attitude Shift question
« on: December 05, 2008, 03:02:25 PM »
We took a trade in on an attitude shift at the shop.  From what I've seen, it looks like a good piece.  I'm thinking of punching it for myself.  The current layout is pin below bridge with the mb on what would be my val.

It does have a short pin.  I was thinking a dual angle layout, 4" pin to pap.  

It has been a number of years since I drilled a high performance storm ball.  Check out my profile, let me know where you'll think it will fit and thoughts on my choice in layout....


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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2008, 11:24:56 PM »
I think it would somewhat overlap with your Bite.  You may be able to drill it differently from that in order achieve a different look.  I would like to the that the Attitude Shift might back more backend than the Bite but they'l cover the same conditions.

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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 11:47:10 PM »
Andrew go 4 1/2 pin to pap and 60-75 degree mb placement, I had two of these both 4 1/2 pin to pap one was under ring and one was over ring.

the pin over ring i have still have great ball and it clear the heads ok and has a massive back end reaction with decent head oil. The Pin down ball cracked in half but it was actually too smooth for my liking.

If you want more roll place the mb towards your VAL as you already know, these balls will motor the lane. I have not had a Shift series ball yet that did not move alot, good stuff so punch it up and watch out.

agroves

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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2008, 02:35:36 AM »
I updated my profile to include the surfaces I keep my equipment at.

I'm thinking this will fit in the med/heavy category at 2000 abralon.  If I put a flippy layout on it, I might have something that I don't already have.  

If I put a smoother layout on it, I can probably use it on moderately heavy sport patterns.....
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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2008, 09:38:55 AM »
I think box is 2k abralon and that is what mine is at, yes the flip drill is simply awesome for tweener style on this ball.

I wonder how much stronger the Virtual is, because I hardly can use the Attitude more than a game or so anyway.

Also the medium Rg pushes it down lane so the flip drill is no brainier with it.

Edited on 12/6/2008 10:40 AM

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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2008, 11:25:27 AM »
When the Attitude is in used condition & shined from lane it can be used all 3 games some times.  But I just gave mine the dishwasher treatment & now this ball really needs the oil or it burns out before the rack.
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agroves

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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 11:17:13 PM »
Drilled up:

4" pin to pap
30* drill angle
20* val angle
2000 grit abralon

I need to put and x-hole in it.  I have 1 3/4 side and 1 1/4 finger.  I know my options are limited...

Any suggestions???
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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 04:18:05 AM »
If you are not looking to decrease the flare, drill the fingers a little deep and x hole on pap. If you try to get it all out with the x hole, you will need a bigger hole and in a flare reducing location.
Hope this helps.
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agroves

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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 12:48:37 PM »
I figured that was the only option I had.
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agroves

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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2008, 05:55:18 PM »
Well, I did toss it about 5 shots last night.  It was different...  I tried to belly the ball from 13 to 8 in practice.  The a ball turned over fine, but seriously lacked continuation.  Perhaps, that is the 2000 Abralon surface...perhaps not.

The pair we were on is notorious for getting very wet/dry.  I wasn't able to get my Wrath Dead Flush up the lane anymore, so I moved into the oil and wasn't able to get the ball to hit.  So, I thought I'd try the Shift in there.  It still read the lane earlier than I'd like, but keeping it in the oil at least gave it some hitting power.

I will probably try it again tonight....  I haven't decided if I'll change the surface or not.
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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2008, 10:47:28 PM »
I bought one for my wife, and it's pretty strong. I left it at the factory surface, and it's almost too much for her on our house shot with her speed. She's got a Shift, and it's money for her though.

I think she'll benefit more on some heavier oil with the Attitude though. Looks like a great ball.
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Re: Attitude Shift question
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2008, 11:29:21 PM »
I got rid of the ball after less than 1 game.  It didn't match my release/style at all.  I'm a tweener, with very little axis tilt.  With surface the ball read the lane at 15 feet and quit.  With polish, it did the same thing, but further up the lane.  

I moved in and went around the ball as much as I could.  It was better, but not a good match for me.  I bowl with a young kid the creates alot more tilt than I do and we have the exact same span.  I reslugged the thumb, swapped the inserts and gave the ball to him.  

He threw about 5 shots with it and the ball came alive.  He was able to get the ball up the lane and get the backend out of it.  Oh well, I'm sure it is a fine ball, but the layout just didn't match my game at all....which is my fault.
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