Ok guys: I just threw the ACE. Dino drilled it for me at Don Carter West. The first shot I threw I left the 8-10, then 7-10, wrap 10, over the top 10, and then solid 8. I had Del Ballard laughing at me on his practice pair. I was like WOW!!!! Pat Healey was open bowling to the left of me and came and looked at the ball and then I threw the next 8 and went and worked out my grips with some acetone and then shot 289 with it the next game. Like Pat and Del said it takes about a game to get the factory finish off of it before it starts hitting good. Let me tell you, this ball was very tame and came back from everywhere. In my opinion better than the Re-Charge that I had drilled. I just didn't drill the Re-charge aggressive enough. I am going to use this ball in league tonight because it looked so good. All in all I give this ball after throwing it 10 games a solid "A". Really smooth. I could play up 10 or move in and there was no jerk reaction, just a very firm hook into the 1-3. I actually had a few bird dogs also. Dino was drilling the Hot Rod pearl for me but I had to leave to get a haircut but I will pick it up before league tonight and throw it after and let ya'll know what that ball does. But seriously, I like the ACE!!!!!!!