I have a triple X which has pin placement 4.5-5. How does that affect the ball in terms of hook and revolution rate?

Thanks for the info. I have mine drilled that the pin is about 2in above the fingers with cg kicked out to the right of my palm about 1.5in. I haven't tried to ball yet. From what u said, this ball won't perform well on the oil lane since it rolls up late? But I am slow bowler (15mph), so does that give the ball more time to roll up?? I will try this new ball someday next week.

Cool... I will try it asap and share my opinions

I got this ball because I want a ball that hooks on the oily lane. I talked to my local pro shop and he said this is the ball you want to skid and snap. He drilled that the pin is right between the fingers and 2 in above with the cg kicks out to the right about 1.5in and rad is in the strong position. I tried it on the medium oil. It goes long and then SNAP. Never had such ball but it was kind amazing. My old ball was drilled to have smooth arc so I am not usd to it yet. I tried it again tonight on a dry lane (because it was late and they didnt oil the lane again). However, it didnt skid at all and started readin the lane pretty early. Didn't have much backend either maybe it already burned out all the energy by the time when it rolled down. So I put it away. I thought it would go long on the dry lane as well, maybe not as long as on the oily lane, but it just doesn't skid at all. Haven't tried on a heavy oil lane yet. But I think it definitely needs some oil in order for it to skid and snap.

Another ques, what cleaner would you recommand to clean this triple x?? Thanks for all the replies.

Chvti,

It sounds like you have almost come to the same conclusion I have about the XXX Factor; it's a great medium oil ball with lots of snap in the backend.  It's not necessarily a great heavy oil ball unless you have lots of revs.  It's OK on medium-dry but as they start to dry up it's time to put that ball away.

At a certain volume of oil (somewhere between med.-heavy to heavy) the XXX Factor just slides out too much for me.  I assume if you have high revs. that may help but I am more in the low to medium rev. bowler.  I can't get the XXX Factor to return enough for me in heavy oil.

I bought the Triple Extreme that fits the bill for heavy oil.  It may be overkill but it worked for me.

Tried the ball again tonight 3/22. It was medium oil lane. I don't know what was wrong but the ball didn't really skid. How should I adjust? I tried to throw further to the right, didn't really skid. Tried throw straighter and faster, still wouldn't skid. No problem with hook. But it always hit jersey. Can anyone help me?