Author Topic: now that the zero gravity is on closeout...... (Read 11893 times)

militant02 · « **on:** February 05, 2015, 10:09:02 PM »

......do you think that storm will release the zero gravity gold or a hybrid version of the zero gravity stateside? do you think that they will let the concept of a weaker asymmetrical fade away? from what i gathered from a lot of bowlers that had the zero is that the coverstock was too strong for it to be a medium condition ball but the core wasn't strong enough for it to be a heavier oil ball unless the surface was changed to a lower grit finish. what were your thoughts of the zero gravity and would you want a pearlized version of it if it were released?

billdozer · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2015, 10:22:13 PM »

No clue, I dont really dig mine. I assume something beefy is coming..

SVstar34 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2015, 10:33:30 PM »

I've seen quite a few Zero Gravitys around and no one I know likes it that much. It was an interesting release at first but it never came close to the hype.

I know a lot of people who would be lining up at Storm's feet if they brought back the Virtual Gravity Nano.

Storm's next releases after the Crux Pearl and Rocket will be either new Breeze colors or new Breeze replacement and a high end ball. At least that's what normally seems to happen around June. I'm thinking optimus solid

Gene J Kanak · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2015, 07:21:55 AM »

Personally, I LOVE my Zero Gravity. It's a perfect medium to medium-heavy ball. I actually used mine to replace my IQ Tour Solid. When thrown side by side, the Zero Gravity is just a touch longer than the Tour, and it's much more continuous. When I threw the Tour, I always felt like I was playing defense. When I throw the Zero Gravity, I am in attack mode even if the conditions are tough.

I think the "problem" with the Zero Gravity was the difference between expectations, which are largely fueled by marketing, and reality. The Zero wasn't an oil monster like the Nano. For me, it was actually very similar to my old Special Agent. In any event, if you can get one at closeout prices, I would recommend giving it a try as your benchmark ball or maybe just one step above it. From league patterns to 1 to 1 ratio Sport patterns, I've found my Zero Gravity to be much, much more usable than a lot of other pieces in my bag.

charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2015, 07:52:33 AM »

Quote from: militant02 on February 05, 2015, 10:09:02 PM

......do you think that storm will release the zero gravity gold or a hybrid version of the zero gravity stateside? do you think that they will let the concept of a weaker asymmetrical fade away? from what i gathered from a lot of bowlers that had the zero is that the coverstock was too strong for it to be a medium condition ball but the core wasn't strong enough for it to be a heavier oil ball unless the surface was changed to a lower grit finish. what were your thoughts of the zero gravity and would you want a pearlized version of it if it were released?

Bowlers are generally too damned STUPID to read; so they never realized that the ZG was designed to be a Nano for medium to medium-heavy oil, just like Gene describes.
So they expected this to be just another "I can now cover 58 boards and out-hook everyone else on the lanes" type of Storm ball.
So, of course, they blamed the ZG as a bad ball; not themselves. "Bowlers" now seem to require balls like the Nano, or Crux or Jackal or Guru to play what is actually a light oil pattern.

MrNattyBoh · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2015, 08:05:21 AM »

I just had a used Zero plugged and redrilled. It gives me a reaction I have not seen in my arsenal of brunswick equipment. It allows me to get inside and swing it with the big boys! Honestly though, it is a good 6-8 boards stronger than the rest of my equipment. So glad i got this ball!

Good Times Good Times · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2015, 08:20:38 AM »

Quote from: charlest on February 06, 2015, 07:52:33 AM

"Bowlers" now seem to require balls like the Nano, or Crux or Jackal or Guru to play what is actually a light oil pattern.

^^^^^^^^^^^

There is quite a bit of truth to this and it (this mindset) has always perplexed me.

MrNattyBoh · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2015, 08:40:52 AM »

i dont get that either......for leagues i have never used a high end hook monster. The mid-low end equipment seems to work just fine for me. I did buy the Mystic Aura from brunswick which was a high end piece but I didnt pay high end price for it.

Gene J Kanak · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2015, 11:03:17 AM »

I think that mindset is part of the reason why you're seeing more and more manufacturers use hybrids, weaker surface grits, etc. on their high end hook monsters. They know that the average joe wants the ball to hook on league conditions, so they're actually allowing that to happen rather than making stuff that burns up at 5-feet unless on a lake of oil. Don't get me wrong; the new stuff is still hella-strong, usually much too strong for most bowlers on house patterns. Still, they're making it more usable, which makes the GP quite happy. After all, who wants to pay $225 or more for a ball they can never use?

billdozer · « **Reply #9 on:** February 06, 2015, 11:17:53 AM »

Idk I can't find a pattern it works well on, I can line up several different ways. I am thrilled to have equipment that I don't need to bag during a set becuase its not Ãœber strong...like my sinister, rolls well and is not overly strong. Now my zero....I just dont know.

After thinking about it I want to say 2/20 bowlers in my area that have it, actually like it. One lefty and one right...

Gene J Kanak · « **Reply #10 on:** February 06, 2015, 11:34:44 AM »

It took me a few sets to get used to the Zero because, more than anything, I'm not used to a solid giving me that combination of easy push and strong, smooth backend. Again, it reminds me of the Special Agent, which was also incredibly versatile in my hands and offered more backend than any solid I've ever thrown.

Bill, I find the IQ Tour to react the way you describe the Zero, at least on THS. I think the IQ Tour Solid is good on tough patterns, but it definitely isn't a ball that gives me the right kind of shot shape to really attack a pattern. Again, I guess it just comes down to expectations and/or bowler preferences.

LookingForALeftyWall · « **Reply #11 on:** February 06, 2015, 11:52:30 AM »

For me the Zero Gravity comes out on heavier THS patterns (not often) and longer sport shots. The core keeps the cover from expending too much energy when back end is key. Being a somewhat speed dominant lefty and trying to get a pearl to read on longer patterns is not something that comes easy for me. The ZG actually was a godsend for playing patterns like London and Mexico City where I needed some bite but also needed energy retention.

northface28 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2015, 04:32:46 PM »

Quote from: Gene J Kanak on February 06, 2015, 11:03:17 AM

I think that mindset is part of the reason why you're seeing more and more manufacturers use hybrids, weaker surface grits, etc. on their high end hook monsters. They know that the average joe wants the ball to hook on league conditions, so they're actually allowing that to happen rather than making stuff that burns up at 5-feet unless on a lake of oil. Don't get me wrong; the new stuff is still hella-strong, usually much too strong for most bowlers on house patterns. Still, they're making it more usable, which makes the GP quite happy. After all, who wants to pay $225 or more for a ball they can never use?

Gene, "hybrid" is all marketing, its doesnt matter.

Rightycomplex · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2015, 06:01:30 PM »

The Zero Gravity is a HP psuedo AAsym. Its designed for Straighter angles on Heavy THS or Sport Patterns. I love mine when the angles are closed down. Once I start to move in, it goes back in the bag because unless you are Belmonte, it'll react like a symmetrical and roll out.

It has it's place.

Impending Doom · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2015, 02:06:37 PM »

When it comes to this ball, the only thing I can think of is the War Eagle (and now the Break Down, which is even closer to the Zero spec wise than the War Eagle) where it's a Assym that you can play straighter with. My War Eagle is great when I can play up the lane, but if I was going to wheel more, I would use something like a Black Eagle to allow for more flare. S70 isn't nearly as strong as ERG, so it doesn't butcher the fronts as bad. I actually like the lower speced assym pieces. Makes it easier to make adjustments.

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