Author Topic: OK...Does Polish on a NANO.... (Read 5706 times)

DukeHarding · « **on:** March 24, 2011, 11:37:07 PM »

Kill the cover?

My pro shop guy told me that Storm had just notified pro shops, that polishing the NANO, kills the cover...

Is it a rumour?

Duke Harding

DukeHarding · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2011, 07:46:09 AM »

Sorry for the multiple posts!

Duke Harding

Juggernaut · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2011, 08:22:38 AM »

Nano probably falls into the category of "super" covers. If so, surface changes from one state to another will affect ot more than it would "normal" covers.

They did a vid of a surface change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU-tGuGGpT8&feature=related

DukeHarding · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2011, 08:35:20 AM »

I was told that, basically the molecular structure of the cover is changed for good, and the ball can't be returned to OOB...nasically the cover is ruined.

I find it hard to believe that Storm wouldn't have polished a ball....and brought it back to OOB, during testing?

Juggernaut wrote on 3/25/2011 8:22 AM:Nano probably falls into the category of "super" covers. If so, surface changes from one state to another will affect ot more than it would "normal" covers.

They did a vid of a surface change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU-tGuGGpT8&feature=related

Duke Harding

Juggernaut · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2011, 09:00:31 AM »

Wow, changed at the molecular level by polishing it? I have heard that some covers can be damaged and irreversibly changed by using harsh chemicals (such as acetone) which could change the covers and close the pores, but polish? That's not good.

A ball whose molecular structure can be changed by the chemical compounds in the ball polish?

I guess you'd better be danged sure you want it polished if that's the case.

I, too, have trouble believing that they would create something like this. It has the potential to be nightmare for them if it is true.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2011, 09:09:21 AM »

Just wait for THAT special polish that can EXCLUSIVELY used on the Nano...

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Russell · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2011, 09:23:32 AM »

Who cares? I don't ever let a ball out of the shop with an actual box finish on it because they are completely impossibly to duplicate. If I touch the ball with a fresh 2000 before they throw it they get the same look as the box finish, and when they come back and say "can you put it back to box" I don't have to charge them$10 for 20 mins of work.

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StormTechDept · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2011, 09:23:52 AM »

Hi Duke Harding,

This is a RUMOR! The Nano takes a polish quite well and for those bowlers with slower speeds and/or bowling on lower volumes should be using it (if they want to use it for longer than 6 frames

).

The NRG coverstock is very pliable. Sanding or polishing, back and forth, it can be used on a wide variety of conditions and for a multitude of styles. If you have any specific questions, don't hesitate to contact us at tech@stormbowling.com or call us at 800-369-4402.

Thanks

Bowl up a STORM!!!!!

Storm Tech Dept
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Russell · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2011, 09:28:32 AM »

I was also going to say that I hit one with 4000 before the cust left as it was picking up the midlane a bit too much and he shot 752 with it last night (205 ave). If it kills the cover you sure couldn't tell by the way it was outhooking his Reign of Fire by 7 boards downlane.

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ecc0_9879 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2011, 10:30:49 AM »

if a proshop ever touched my out of box condition i would have a fit the manufacturer put it there for a reason and thats why i bought the ball

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2011, 10:35:46 AM »

Russell,

First of all, Duke was asking if POLISH killed the cover, not sanding. He said he was told that POLISH, or the compounds in the polish, could alter the balls cover at the molecular level, irreversibly altering the ball forever..

Second, are you telling the people you're selling the balls too that you are changing them before the customer ever gets to throw them as Storm intended? What if a true OOB finish would be PERFECT for your customer, but they end up hating the ball because YOU altered the original surface without thr new owners knowledge and permission?

I'm not saying you shouldn't alter the finish, but the CUSTOMER should be the one to decide.

BowlingChat · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2011, 11:55:23 AM »

Hank Boomershine has answered this question: http://forum.bowlingchat.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2732

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Russell · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2011, 11:57:14 AM »

It's not about the reaction, it's about appearance. I once had a guy ask why the 2000 abralon I used didn't look like the one that was on the new ball. I explained to him why but he didn't seem to understand. I just do it to make the ball look like something that can be duplicated.

If the OOB finish is 2000 and I touch it with fresh 2000...I'm not changing anything other than the way it looks. There are some rare exceptions but I have done this for quite a while. The ball companies are not doing anything magical....and their 2000 grit is the same 2000 grit I'm using.

Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"

Juggernaut · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2011, 12:28:10 PM »

Okay, I understand a bit better after hearing this. You're not really changing the surface, just going from a 2000 ( or whatever) factory finish to a 2000 (or whatever) shop spinner finish.

You're still leaving it at the factory recommended finish, just going over it again at the shop.

I often have to do a thourough cleaning on Storms factory polished pearls before they will react consistently for me. Almost seem to have a film of some type on them that needs to be either cleaned off or worn through.

Russell wrote on 3/25/2011 11:57 AM:
It's not about the reaction, it's about appearance. I once had a guy ask why the 2000 abralon I used didn't look like the one that was on the new ball. I explained to him why but he didn't seem to understand. I just do it to make the ball look like something that can be duplicated.

If the OOB finish is 2000 and I touch it with fresh 2000...I'm not changing anything other than the way it looks. There are some rare exceptions but I have done this for quite a while. The ball companies are not doing anything magical....and their 2000 grit is the same 2000 grit I'm using.

Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"

se7en · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2011, 12:34:34 PM »

I hit mine with polish on the OOB surface. I didn't like the length, so I took it back going 2000 > 4000 abralon. It seems to be close to where it was when I had it drilled to be honest.

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