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AlonzoHarris

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Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« on: October 23, 2016, 01:06:23 PM »
Anyone had a chance to compare these two?
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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2016, 07:44:43 PM »
I would imagine the on is cleaner with more off the spot! 
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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2016, 08:48:56 PM »
Haven't thrown a Phaze II, but my On is a beast on everything. I actually have to back my hand out of it so it doesn't go nuts off the spot.

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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2016, 08:53:22 PM »
Would you guys guess both their coverstocks to be less aggressive/require less oil than the Haywire?
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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 10:23:25 PM »
Would you guys guess both their coverstocks to be less aggressive/require less oil than the Haywire?

According to the chart I have .....the phaze 2 cover is weaker than NRG and from what we know NRG weaker than the Hyper/haywire cover microbite 80H

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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2016, 11:48:06 PM »
I don't know the strength of the Storm and Roto covers, but 74 response cover is strong off the spot without burning up early.

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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 07:49:48 AM »
I don't know the strength of the Storm and Roto covers, but 74 response cover is strong off the spot without burning up early.

Idk where the 74 response fits in.

Doom do u think the numbers at roto and the numbers at 900 global match up? 

Most of rotos high end is in the 70's as well.

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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2016, 09:28:32 AM »
I guess 74 response would be close, but I know that the 74 on the Network and the Dream covers are different monsters. The newer cover is much harder off the spot at the same surface.

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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2016, 03:06:14 PM »
Hmm I'm so conflicted on which one to pull the trigger on. I like them both. I'm sure come end of November when I order it there will be something else announced that may or may not be a third option. I would expect an HP4 ball to drop for Roto-Grip, and a moderate motion MH oil ball for Motiv.
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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2016, 04:10:46 PM »
Motiv won't have anything until December, due to the Primal Fear being released on Halloween. I would expect that if there is a HP4 introduction, it would be the No Rules Pearl. I know I'm biased, but you can not go wrong with the Dream On. I haven't seen a bad one thrown.

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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2016, 12:42:04 PM »
Anyone compared the Phaze II with the Alpha Crux?
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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2016, 04:45:06 AM »
Out side of the obvious Asym vs Sym difference, the Phaze 2 will be longer and slower response to the friction compared to the Dream On. I can imagine the 2 being a good 1-2 combo. Same with the Alpha.
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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2016, 01:29:37 PM »
The Dream On with the Response 74 is too good to pass imo. I would get that because the Phaze II will stick around for a bit.
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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2016, 09:10:03 PM »
The Dream On with the Response 74 is too good to pass imo. I would get that because the Phaze II will stick around for a bit.

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Re: Phaze 2 vs Dream On
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2016, 01:09:35 AM »
At first I didn't like the F74 on the BHP but now I'm a big fan of it's versatility and the different cores it is wrapped around.