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jman76

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Phaze and Fight
« on: January 19, 2016, 08:44:13 AM »
Have any of the staffers out there gotten their hands on either the new Phaze or Fight? Very curious about both of these new balls.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2016, 05:50:23 PM »
How close would the fight be to the haywire?
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2016, 09:24:06 AM »
The Phaze, for all intents and purposes, is the long awaited successor to the Marvel Pearl. On several different house shots in a head to head comparison, they yielded almost identical shape and motion. Factor in a slightly stronger cover to combat today's newer oils and that's the Phaze.

The Fight is a unique piece, so I am seeking some input from Callahan or Timmy Mack prior to drilling. From your perspective, I would wait for some reviews either here or on YouTube before punching one up.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2016, 09:31:43 AM »
Quote from: bowlingman817 on January 26, 2016, 05:50:23 PM
How close would the fight be to the haywire?

It's looks to be a decent step down in overall hook but more length with that RG.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2016, 01:15:41 AM »
So I finally got the Fight drilled. Ended up 50 x 4 3/8 x 50 which put the pin in my ring finger. Threw it a few times to check fit and pins were flying around. I can't wait to throw it in our men's league tomorrow night
« Last Edit: February 03, 2016, 01:17:45 AM by SVstar34 »
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2016, 09:08:56 AM »
I'm getting the Phaze drilled up tomorrow night and my girlfirend is getting the Fight drilled up as well. It will be nice to see both balls in action. I'm hoping we both get great results. I watched a YouTube video on Storm's Facebook page last night all about the Phaze and Fight. It was really interesting.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2016, 09:29:31 AM »
Fot those that have the Phaze, would it be a good step down from my Lock? also how much different than the H/C Skid?
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2016, 08:27:09 PM »
Quote from: wburr835 on January 29, 2016, 09:24:06 AM
The Phaze, for all intents and purposes, is the long awaited successor to the Marvel Pearl. On several different house shots in a head to head comparison, they yielded almost identical shape and motion. Factor in a slightly stronger cover to combat today's newer oils and that's the Phaze.

The Fight is a unique piece, so I am seeking some input from Callahan or Timmy Mack prior to drilling. From your perspective, I would wait for some reviews either here or on YouTube before punching one up.
Interesting. Every staffer and ball reviewer I've asked said the Ohaze does not roll like a Marvel Pearl. Everyone is saying it has too unique of a roll to compare to anything else. Not liking what I'm hearing so far in all honesty.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2016, 08:46:57 PM »
Just watched a video on the Phaze by long time staffer Casey Murphy and his comparison was to the IQ30 edition. After comparing both balls they said the IQ30 was much stronger overall than the Phaze. Seems weird because to me the IQ30 is not an overly strong ball in the first place. So just how weak is this Phaze? Doesn't seem to be worth the big price point that it is at.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2016, 09:11:50 PM »
Phaze has dud written all over it. Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2016, 09:43:28 PM »
Quote from: northface28 on February 03, 2016, 09:11:50 PM
Phaze has dud written all over it. Hope I'm wrong.

I hope not, it doesn't look like it. I'm liking my Fight right now. It wasn't quite enough ball first game. Burned a line with a stronger ball and pulled it back out for the 2nd game and shot 259, 247

I can say the Fight is really interesting. I threw a couple more games after league. It rolled great after the lanes transitioned the first time and only had to make small adjustments games 3,4,5 on the pair. After the 5th game I feel like It would have been a good time to switch to a weaker ball like a Ride/JoyRide/Loco
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2016, 08:23:56 AM »
After a few more games with the Phaze, I can definitively say it's a step down from the Hyper Cell Skid.  It slots in below the Skid and above a Rocket that I have a motion hole layout on.

IMO, the Phaze is not the high hooking ball that some think it should be because of the "stickiness" marketing.  However, it's is a very good ball for medium conditions for most bowlers.  I dont think it will be a dud, it's a very good ball - it just may be a different ball than some are expecting. 
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2016, 08:53:47 AM »
Quote from: LookingForALeftyWall on February 04, 2016, 08:23:56 AM
After a few more games with the Phaze, I can definitively say it's a step down from the Hyper Cell Skid.  It slots in below the Skid and above a Rocket that I have a motion hole layout on.

IMO, the Phaze is not the high hooking ball that some think it should be because of the "stickiness" marketing.  However, it's is a very good ball for medium conditions for most bowlers.  I dont think it will be a dud, it's a very good ball - it just may be a different ball than some are expecting. 

If most people are expecting one thing and get another, thats how duds happen.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2016, 09:30:17 AM »
I think the Phaze is a good ball. However, this scenario is very similar to the Zero Gravity situation. Great ball, but not marketed correctly or at least the impression given from Storm was for a different reaction than what the Zero provided.

I still use a Zero and have a NIB stashed. It just wasn't the hook in the hook in the box most thought it would be.


I also remember years back to Ebonite marketing the Striking Motion ball. Similar claims on hook, and yet the ball was a medium ball at best. Great ball on anything medium, just not what most thought it would be. 
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2016, 01:59:14 PM »
Premium price for a medium ball won't work for most guys.
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Re: Phaze and Fight
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2016, 02:51:16 PM »
Quote from: northface28 on February 04, 2016, 01:59:14 PM
Premium price for a medium ball won't work for most guys.

That was also another problem for the Zero I think
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