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stopncrank

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Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« on: May 10, 2010, 04:22:59 AM »
Im wondering if anybody has polished up their Virtual. Im bowling in a lower volume center this summer, and im trying new things as well to see how they fit my game.

Im wondering how polishing the Virtual affects the overall roll of the ball? Mine is basically #2 on the Drill sheet. At box surface i can only muster about 1 game before its too much ball for me. So as an added bonus im try to get it more house shot friendly.

Also as a side note, the surface at the center im at now is Guardian overlay, with pretty good friction outside of 6, and very crisp backend. My stats are 17 mph ball speed, med high axis rotation, and rev rate between 400-450.
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Xcessive_Evil

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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2010, 12:28:01 PM »
Adding polish will make it push further down the lane and have a sharper backend.  I had my VG polished for a while.  Recently, I went back to 2000 because I have enough to use on drier conditions.
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2010, 12:33:47 PM »
So was it more "useable" for you polished, because mine is good for maybe a game at the most before it is just too much. I was more worried i guess that adding the polish would kill that awesome roll that ball gets.
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2010, 12:35:39 PM »
Yeah.  Granted I had to move about 5 boards right and tighten my line, but I still got a great backend reaction out of it.
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2010, 02:33:41 PM »
ever heard of "changing balls"?!?!?!?!!

the VG isnt for dry(r) lanes...  why change the cover of a ball that works good the way it is, just grab something weaker.. duh!!
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 02:36:23 PM »
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 At box surface i can only muster about 1 game before its too much ball for me. So as an added bonus im try to get it more house shot friendly.

 the surface at the center im at now is Guardian overlay, with pretty good friction outside of 6, and very crisp backend



W O W!! c'mon man, you anwsered you own question!! why fight the lanes with a VG...??? CHANGE BALLS!!   its bowln 102..   LOL
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 02:36:30 PM »
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 03:52:28 PM »
I understand what you're saying...but it definitely isn't like that in our leagues here.  The low rev guys are scoring with the virtuals, cells, etc. while the high rev guys are scoring with nomads, fasts, slingshots, etc...

My Reign and ROF(when they were sanded) wouldn't make it past the first game.  Our shot is horrible-44ft with 15ml in volume...
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stopncrank

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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 03:53:19 PM »
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ever heard of "changing balls"?!?!?!?!!

the VG isnt for dry(r) lanes...  why change the cover of a ball that works good the way it is, just grab something weaker.. duh!!


Because the "weaker" stuff doesnt turn the corner, thats why i asked about the surface change on the VG...but i guess the other high rev guys that are scoring good with polished Mega Frictions, Mutant Cells, and Reign of Fires dont know what their doin either, right??

I dont mind people chiming in, but at least ask questions before you run off at the lip not knowing the whole situation your talking about...

I asked for a simple solution about surface on the VG, if a weaker ball was needed i believe i wouldnt have asked...

Maybe you need a refresher course in that Bowling 102 class....
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 06:08:35 PM »
^^^ maybe you just need a "better" ball driller....??

for all i/we know, you might be tryn to hook the ball too much... if your a "high rev" as u say are, there shouldnt be ANY problem getn a weak ball to turn the corner fyi... a weak(LIGHT/MED OIL) ball drilled correctly can out hook a VG on the backend. I PROMISE!!  :-)
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 07:11:08 PM »
Polish it up. I had one and did not like it at all until I polished it up a bit. I kept mine shined up until I replaced it, worked great.
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 09:08:31 PM »
I have a VG and it was unusable until I polished it. No sanding, but just polish over the OOB. At least it's more usable for me and if I ever want it for heavy oil, I'll just take the polish off. No big deal.
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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 04:09:57 AM »
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Because the "weaker" stuff doesnt turn the corner, thats why i asked about the surface change on the VG...


But that's not the point. You do not need a ball that HOOKS to score, you need one that WORKS - a proper ball reaction. Probably the weaker stuff goes through a sound skid/hook/roll pattern despite the lighter conditions, and only covers a few boards. The the latter is not decisive - it is about getting the ball down the lane so that it just starts rolling before it enters the pins. The VG is IMHO not the 1st choice ball for this on light oil. Polish might help, but I am sure that a low end piece will be better suited for the job.

If you insist on using an oiler on light conditions, that's anotehr thing...
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stopncrank

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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2010, 07:16:04 AM »
Again, i repeat, the higher rev guys are scoring CONSISTENTLY better with polished high end stuff...the volume in the middle is lighter, yes but the mid range pieces are way too strong off the friction outside and the backend of the pattern...

Ever heard of using a stronger piece to bleed energy so its smoother off friction??? Trust me when i tell you the mid range stuff isnt working because ive tried mine and they are way too over/under...

^^^ maybe you just need a "better" ball driller....??

for all i/we know, you might be tryn to hook the ball too much... if your a "high rev" as u say are, there shouldnt be ANY problem getn a weak ball to turn the corner fyi... a weak(LIGHT/MED OIL) ball drilled correctly can out hook a VG on the backend. I PROMISE!! :-)


Like i said, thats exactly what i dont need, more backend...im using the aggressive cover to bleed energy so its smoother off the friction, i just need to know in a round about way how high to go without it being snappy....the mid range balls arent checking up inside off 15 unless you send it to 5, then its through the face because it bounces way too much for me off the friction. when i keep them tighter, they dont wrinkle.

As for my ball driller, most everyone knows him, ive used him for about 3 years now with no complaints. Did you bother to ask me how the VG is drilled, and what surface i have it at now?? NO, you just make assumptions based on being a know it all...But then again, i havent taken Bowling 102 LMAO...

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Re: Polishing a Virtual Gravity
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2010, 07:30:41 AM »
Stopncrank,

I know what you are talking about with your mid line equipment. I would suggest hitting your VG with 2000 abralon by hand with water, to promote midlane read. Then use some moonshine, or xtrashine on top of the 2000. What this will do, is allow your ball to still burn off energy through the fronts and in the midlane(without hooking too early), but will tame your backend down, giving you more control downlane. If you just apply polish to the VG after 4000, or use step 2, you may create too much angle downlane, and your reaction will resemble what your midline balls are doing. If possible, apply your polish using the slow setting on a two speed spinner, on all four sides. This way, it will not "smooth" the upper grooves you created in the ball, that enables traction to allow the ball to bleed off energy.
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