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Southern California Bowl

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Pro Pin Virtual Gravity
« on: April 28, 2009, 02:26:06 AM »
Does anyone know what sites I can find a Pro Pin Virtual Gravity at?

Thanks in advance

 

Monster Pike

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Re: Pro Pin Virtual Gravity
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009, 12:16:04 PM »
Well, not yet any way.  My guess is that eventually bowlingball.com will get them in the near future.  They usually do with Storm's top 2 or 3 lines.
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Re: Pro Pin Virtual Gravity
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009, 10:33:33 PM »
i dont think storm has made any..... yet or if they are.
dont think they did any with the dimension either

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Re: Pro Pin Virtual Gravity
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 10:46:16 PM »
There were a few pro-pin dimensions for sure, haven't seen any pro pin VGs though.
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Re: Pro Pin Virtual Gravity
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009, 02:24:56 PM »
This is a serious question, not a joke. I've always wondered. What exactly is a pro pin? Is it true they are just a marketing name for blem.

Dan Belcher

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Re: Pro Pin Virtual Gravity
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 02:27:35 PM »
quote:
This is a serious question, not a joke. I've always wondered. What exactly is a pro pin? Is it true they are just a marketing name for blem.
Basically, yes.  It's a "blem," but that's not always a bad thing depending on what makes it a blem.  In this case, a longer than usual pin to CG distance makes it a blem, but it can be very useful for certain drillings.  Hence they give them a name that is less disparaging than blem and sell it to the people who are looking for a good deal and looking for a ball that gives them the drilling options they want.  Great marketing in my opinion.

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Re: Pro Pin Virtual Gravity
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2009, 03:20:56 PM »
I would pay full price for a Pro Pin ball, I like to have a 6 to 7 inch pin to PAP distance. Keeps my flare rings down, and in turn helps out my carry. I think they are great for the guys who like to spin it a lot.

My Favorite ball in my bag right now is a Rapid Fire that has a 7.5 Pin to PAP distance.

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Re: Pro Pin Virtual Gravity
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 12:28:08 PM »
Pro Pin balls are 1st quality balls as far as coverstock and weightblock are concerned. They have the normal colors, densities, finish, top weight and cosmetic appeal as a "normal" 1st quality. The key difference is in the distance of the pin.

The industry standard for most balls have the pin distance manufactured between 2" to 4" with a tolerance of +/- 1". As such, pin distances between 1 to 5" are normal with the average in the 2" to 4" range. However, when a pin distance goes beyond 5" but is not beyond the halfway point of 6 3/4", the ball by Storm standards will be classified as a 1st quality Pro Pin.

However, if the pin distance goes beyond 6 3/4" it will actually end up closer to the negative X-axis (180 degree from pin as marked) and would be classified as an X-blem. Even an X-blem with a 6 1/2" plus Pin distance is still a good ball. In order to drill it, all you need to do is measure 13 1/2" from the center of the pin to the opposite side of the ball. Use this new mark as the "pseudo pin" and drill the ball accordingly. By using this technique, an 8 1/2" pin becomes a 'normal' 5" pin which is much easier to use and will have nearly identical roll characteristics to a normal 5” pin.

Concerning Pro Pins: in many ways, a Pro Pin ball is a much better option for most bowlers than a 0 - 2" pin. For most bowlers, a balance hole located in the positive thumb quadrant will enhance the roll creating a stronger ball. However, if you use interchangeable thumbs, have a large thumb, or a long span, trying to get a balance hole in an "ideal" location to maximize backend and flip (0 - 2" Pin buffer for example) a longer pin is necessary. Also, longer pin distances are ideal for lower rev players, spinners, or high rev players that need to avoid a balance hole for tracking reasons. Hence, a Pro Pin is probably better for more players than a 2" pin which is "normal" especially with the long standing 1oz static weight rules by ABC/USBC.

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