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reppinNYC

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« on: June 29, 2006, 06:12:45 AM »
I bowl saturday mornings at my local bowling alley and they are very lazy and usually never oil the lanes. So the mids are usually scorched and there is spotty oil all over the place. My S&D and my AF are way too strong and im not really comfortable swinging the ball the amount i have to useing these balls. For instance last wee i was standing 40 throwing abou 10-12 and i was crossing over. Finally i said F-it and used my spare ball but the carrydown didnt let it finish resulting in stone ten pins. The dilemma is will a fired up (pin above fingers) polished to the max work on these conditions or shuld i invest money on a dry lane ball? Other problem is i reallydont liek the way my friends tropical storm hits.Ive heard good things about Track's dry lane balls and also the Sahara from Morich. Suggestions greatly aprreciated
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2006, 02:16:45 PM »
Also, Hammer's purple Vibe and PURE Hammer Burgundy are excellent. Track's Desert Heat is also a great choice. I prefer balls with real bloacks versus Ebonite Tornados, Brunswick Power Grooves and Storm Hits/Big Hits.
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reppinNYC

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2006, 02:18:39 PM »
Thanks hammer,could u explain to me the difference of the new BLUE VIBE to the original vibe cause ive heard alot about this ball.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2006, 02:22:36 PM »
Sure, the Blue Vibe has a different and stronger coverstock, CT (Cut Throat) Reactive which will read the midlane sooner so it's stronger than the purple model. The purple Vibe uses a weaker version of Max-Flip reactive, which glides smoothly through the heads and midlane to give length , but still recovers on the backend. It's great for burned heads and spotty midlanes.
Go with a pin high, right above the bridge to increase length.
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reppinNYC

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2006, 02:38:48 PM »
Thanks alot hammer but is it possible for my fired up polished to the max to work on these conditions?

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2006, 02:42:54 PM »
That's just a tough shot all around...  Typically I would use my maxim from the outside on that shot.. try to get enough angle to the pocket so when it gets to the carry down, it doesn't lose all of its hit.  
If I were drilling up something special just for this condition, I would go with a medium cover ball (polished) with a medium/strong assymetrical core...  Something like a 5.5" to 6" pin above the fingers and MB in the strong position...  something to get through the heads and down the lane a ways, but get started towards the pocket before it hits the carrydown.

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reppinNYC

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2006, 02:45:23 PM »
Thanks Strapper and i tried using my spare right up the outside and all i did was get alot of practice on my ten pins (which i needed lol). But still strapper isnt the Fired Up a medium coverstock ball and i polished to the max so ur saying this shuld work right?

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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2006, 02:53:50 PM »
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But still strapper isnt the Fired Up a medium coverstock ball and i polished to the max so ur saying this shuld work right?



The Fired Up is a stronger ball than advertised but I guess it could be polished up like a marble and work on fried lanes...there are better choices within the Storm line to handle the condition you are talking about...
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reppinNYC

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2006, 02:57:59 PM »
VT if your talking abotu a tropical storm as i already stated i do not like the way they hit and thats why if this ndoesnt work i want a dry lane ball that hits hard like some of the balls Hammer suggested. Thanx for the opinions
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reppinNYC

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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2006, 03:07:01 PM »
UGHH LOL visionary
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2006, 03:21:33 PM »
I'm finding this an interesting discussion.

There is a post here called dry midlanes do a search.

I have been bowling on this dry midlane carrydown condition for two years in league it is a disaster for me with my medium revs softer speed and strong axis rotation.

The closest ball I have found has been a Hot Rod Super Sport pearl...if carry dwon I can almost play straight up and it finishes.

If the backends are a little more I play a straight line from around 13 at the arrows to almost to just a line outside the 7 pin and it finsihes gawhumpas!

Kaboom!  On either shot.

The Reactor coverstock on this ball is the cat's meow on synthetic and though the core of the fired up gives too much midlane the core of the Hot Rod Super Sport Pearl(not that pearly really)same reactor super stuff(continuous and strong) and I've done well.

On our alleys I've seen some Tropicals really cream the right side(and hit like mutha's also).  I actually am involved in a trade for one right now to see if I could play even straighter with it!  Since I am so in love with the reactor skin!

Sometimes on weekends it is so dry and so bad I've bowled great with an old Ebonite Rubber(easier to get to the break than even my XXXL plastic).

But usually for league it does not have enough uuumph!

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PS I have a Sahara and it forces me inside...for most of my standard strong reactives I must play almost to the 4th arrow which is pretty deep for a lefty to catch a piece of the pocket.
PPS our shot 40 foot oiled at 5:30 am...then all day open bowling.  For league they add a 16 foot short run and then leave midlanes bare with carrydown at 40 feet plus!
pPS I like Strapper Sqaureds Idea and have not tried it!
I've had decent luck with a Shock from columbia with pin under bridge and cg out and a reaction decreasing weighthole 1 inch inside my VAL.
PPPS though not as good as I am on any oil I've moved up in the pack with my HRSSP and also with my XXXL and Shock quite a bit...and I have a very unsuitable ball roll for this shot....Others adjust their ball roll with lots of speed...little axis rotation,....OR a ton of loft!  Many bowlers who do well on this shot have a lot more speed than revs!

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reppinNYC

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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2006, 04:47:55 PM »
THANKS alot lucky another queston i have was that i like morich alot and was lookin at the saharahow strong is this ball? is it really for dry lanes?

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2006, 09:25:47 PM »
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THANKS alot lucky another queston i have was that i like morich alot and was lookin at the saharahow strong is this ball? is it really for dry lanes?

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IMO, it worked best on Medium light or medium shots. Not a dry lane ball at all. I really like the Tropical storm for dry lanes but, it dosent like carrydown like most dry lane balls. You could try this, Get a medium condition ball with a very long pin, like 5+ inches and drill the ball weak. This will give you the length and also the cover to handle a bit of carrydown. I have a Roto RS-1 I use for this condition and it has a 5.5 inch pin drillind directly 2.5 inches over the fingers with the CG stacked stright below. Works like a charm.

reppinNYC

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2006, 10:50:31 PM »
that is also another good suggestion. Well guys thanx for the help wish me luck this saturday
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2006, 01:07:53 AM »
I have a Sahara and have used it somewhat on this shot!

Pin next to ring and mass bias just touching thumb on teh strong side.

The ball has just about the best recovery of any ball I own.

Still forces me inside a little on this shot more than the carry seems to allow.

Funny I've used it more when the shot was a touch oilier and because of the big recovery it has reaclly had some great pin action.

We have a guy with similar roll to me.  He drilled similar pin and mass bias negative...he has had some great sets with his!

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