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machine189

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resurface a polished storm ball
« on: June 26, 2008, 06:39:53 AM »
i want 2 bring back to oob to an original storm eraser. I know its a highly polished ball so i was wondering should i sand it down to 400 then apply a high gloss polish.( this is oob for polished brunswick balls)

Does any1 know storms recommendation?
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Dan Belcher

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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 02:45:03 PM »
Getting a Storm ball back to it's out-of-box finish is a tough task.  Nobody seems to have perfected it.  Some people here have suggested sanding to 800 or 1000, then applying Storm ReactaShine polish.  I'll leave other suggestions open for other people to chime in.
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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2008, 03:06:49 PM »
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i want 2 bring back to oob to an original storm eraser. I know its a highly polished ball so i was wondering should i sand it down to 400 then apply a high gloss polish.( this is oob for polished brunswick balls)

Does any1 know storms recommendation?
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I forgot it but maybe that's not precisely what you want to do. It is said to be 1500 grit polished, and there are many ways to get there. If I may suggest some things.
1. Because Brunswick does it that way with THEIR coverstocks and with THEIR polishes, it may not be the right way for you to get a Storm ball back to factory finish.
2. It might be a safe idea to get it close to where you need it to be OR "want" the Eraser to be, rather than precisely how Storm sold it originally.

I'd suggest 2 ways, depending on the type of polish (not the brand) you use or have available to you.

If you have an abrasive polish, like Storm's Reacta Shine or Xtra Shine (my favorite abrasive polish) or Ebonite's Factory Finish polish, then sand the ball to 600 or 800 grit (US scale) and then apply a LIGHT, that is LIGHT dose of the polish. Then try the ball. You can always apply more polish. The abrasive in the polish will make thet 600 or 800 grit finer bringing it closer to the "magic" 1500 grit level.

If you have a non-abrasive polish, like Legends Factory Finish polish, Track Magic Shine, or Valentino's Snake Oil (good stuff becomign a favorite of mine), sand the ball to around 1000 grit (US Scale) or "P2000" or 2000 grit Abralon (Abralon uses the "P" scale, or European scale), then apply a LIGHT dose of the polish. Again, you can always add more. The non-abrasive polish will not change the underlying grit level.  If you have Brunswick's High Gloss polish, while it is not abrasive, it applies a quicker, glossier shine. I'd sand the ball to the 600/800 grit level, when using Brunswick's polish. (This is my experience it may not be everyone's.)

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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2008, 03:15:24 PM »
The best result I've got for duplicating 1500 polished, is using 1000 abralon, followed by Brunswick Rough Buff.


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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 03:18:51 PM »
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I forgot it but maybe that's not precisely what you want to do. It is said to be 1500 grit polished, and there are many ways to get there. If I may suggest some things.
1. Because Brunswick does it that way with THEIR coverstocks and with THEIR polishes, it may not be the right way for you to get a Storm ball back to factory finish.
2. It might be a safe idea to get it close to where you need it to be OR "want" the Eraser to be, rather than precisely how Storm sold it originally.

I'd suggest 2 ways, depending on the type of polish (not the brand) you use or have available to you.

If you have an abrasive polish, like Storm's Reacta Shine or Xtra Shine (my favorite abrasive polish) or Ebonite's Factory Finish polish, then sand the ball to 600 or 800 grit (US scale) and then apply a LIGHT, that is LIGHT dose of the polish. Then try the ball. You can always apply more polish. The abrasive in the polish will make thet 600 or 800 grit finer bringing it closer to the "magic" 1500 grit level.

If you have a non-abrasive polish, like Legends Factory Finish polish, Track Magic Shine, or Valentino's Snake Oil (good stuff becomign a favorite of mine), sand the ball to around 1000 grit (US Scale) or "P2000" or 2000 grit Abralon (Abralon uses the "P" scale, or European scale), then apply a LIGHT dose of the polish. Again, you can always add more. The non-abrasive polish will not change the underlying grit level.  If you have Brunswick's High Gloss polish, while it is not abrasive, it applies a quicker, glossier shine. I'd sand the ball to the 600/800 grit level, when using Brunswick's polish. (This is my experience it may not be everyone's.)

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Thx i have the brunswick high gloss polish i'll try 600/800grit then polish..because i only cleaned it and the applied the polish and now it goes way to long lol
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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 03:20:16 PM »
That is why I throw it box for a little while then do my own finishes using abralon pads and whatever polish I choose. Doing this will help you keep a better ball reaction that you can duplicate.
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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 04:09:30 PM »
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Thx i have the brunswick high gloss polish i'll try 600/800grit then polish..because i only cleaned it and the applied the polish and now it goes way to long lol
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That's exactly why I always say a LIGHT dose of polish. ALso it's hard to know how another will sand the ball. It could come out rougher or smoother than I would do it.
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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 04:55:47 PM »
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The best result I've got for duplicating 1500 polished, is using 1000 abralon, followed by Brunswick Rough Buff.


I do the same except start with 500 abralon then Ruff Buff.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 05:00:21 PM »
Hello,

I use a 1000 grit Abralon pad(about 550 US) and then finish with storm Step#2 compound. Works great on my Pyro.

Abralon finishes a little smoother(rounder) so the 600-800 charlest sugested is about the same.

Don't go for to much shine. Work in steps to get the reaction you want.

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machine189

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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 05:01:07 PM »
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I do the same except start with 500 abralon then Ruff Buff.
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ok well wouldn't 400 grit and brunswick high gloss polish be similar to 500 with Ruff Buff? just asking.
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charlest

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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2008, 06:19:08 PM »
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I do the same except start with 500 abralon then Ruff Buff.
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ok well wouldn't 400 grit and brunswick high gloss polish be similar to 500 with Ruff Buff? just asking.
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It all depends on what you wind up with when you finish with 400 grit and 500 grit and then what you with that AFTER you apply Rough Buff for how long, for how much, and pressign how hard on the spinner. You have 8 - 10 variables here and each one has one or more variables in their applications.

You can wind up with 20 different ball REACTIONS not huge differences, but definite differences!
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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2008, 06:33:38 PM »
320 grit(burgandy scotchbrite)/Storm step2 1500 compound for factory OOB. As Charlest stated, with all the varibles involved with the application, it will never be exactly as Storm delivered it to you but close enough for government work.
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Re: resurface a polished storm ball
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2008, 08:26:45 PM »
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You can wind up with 20 different ball REACTIONS not huge differences, but definite differences!
 

Absolutly right.
I do a 30 count in my head then check application. It keeps it close enough for me.
It is all in the application like was stated.

 
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ok well wouldn't 400 grit and brunswick high gloss polish be similar to 500 with Ruff Buff? just asking.

Maybe.
I don't use polish beyond Ruff Buff. I just start with different grits on the set up.My abralon choices are 500,1000,2000, and 4000. Thats a big enough invetment for me.I can get what I'm looking for with those and Ruff Buff.
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