Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on November 21, 2008, 01:04:48 AM
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Post by: Raven829 on November 21, 2008, 09:09:11 AM
Did you ever punch up that stuff that Hank laid out for you in Sheboygan? I punched a Rapid Fire shortly after the clinic and it is now my favorite piece. The thing is silly strong for how I laid it out. I'm thinking about the Pearl with the same layout to go with it. I could probably cover everything but dirt with just those 2 balls.
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Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on November 21, 2008, 09:16:12 AM
I've punched a RF and the Black Pearl Reactive which I've kinda put to the side, partly due the fact that I seem to think I know more about my game than seasoned Storm staffers and Silver level coaches. I really do agree with a LOT of what Steve has worked with me on and I'm working most, not all, but most of those ideas into my game. I've hooked up with Satan about three weeks ago and we're still working on a few things on my armswing to keep things less "muscular" and reduce some of the cradling that exists throughout the backswing. The changes we made gave me a very similar ball reaction shape and roll to Ryan Shafer as it moved smoothly throught the pattern and read the backends nicely. Still got some fit issues to contend with, as well. It just seems SOOOOOO short compared to before. IN other words, I've got my work cut out for me right now!
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Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2008, 09:20:46 AM
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It just seems SOOOOOO short compared to before. IN other words, I've got my work cut out for me right now
Short not streched with forward I imagine. Did this 3 years ago and never looked back...no thumb wear more forward roll.
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Post by: Raven829 on November 21, 2008, 09:43:42 AM
Don
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on November 21, 2008, 11:10:49 AM
I seriously was liking the ball reaction from TV with Machuga with this ball, I can only buy once in awhile now and you saved me over 200 bucks thanks buddy!!
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on November 21, 2008, 11:20:57 AM
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Well thanks this changed my mind towards a Sauce or Striking Motion now lol
I seriously was liking the ball reaction from TV with Machuga with this ball, I can only buy once in awhile now and you saved me over 200 bucks thanks buddy!!
Barry, don't confuse the trials of a couple of Wisconsin house hacks with the talent that Chuga showed on the Chameleon TV finals. Besides, I have yet to even even punch mine out. Who knows, maybe I'll match up great with mine and a little tweaking will make my buddy's pill the first choice, as well. He called me earlier this morning that he stuck around long enough to win enough money in pot games with the VG to help ease his initial pain!( I wonder why they waited until I left to bowl pot games?
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Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2008, 11:21:19 AM
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Well thanks this changed my mind towards a Sauce or Striking Motion
The VG won't die Barry.
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Post by: Kid Jete on November 21, 2008, 11:26:22 AM
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Well thanks this changed my mind towards a Sauce or Striking Motion now lol
I seriously was liking the ball reaction from TV with Machuga with this ball, I can only buy once in awhile now and you saved me over 200 bucks thanks buddy!!
It wheels the entire lane in the video that Britton shot. I wouldn't base my decision off of one account of the balls not doing what you want it to. Like 230 said he hadn't even drilled his up yet. I'm actually shocked it didnt move much for his friend, I have yet to see one that wasn't off the charts strong.
Post by: mrbowlingnut on November 21, 2008, 11:31:03 AM
I only see medium heavy oil one game now in a 5 man league, I am thinking it would be a waste of ball thinking about this.
I have gravity shift and already love it so, not that you talked me out of it but probably too strong of a ball overall for South Point's easy shot.
Post by: LaneHammer20 on November 21, 2008, 11:38:37 AM
His had the pin above the bridge, mb about 2-3 inches from thumb.
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Post by: chitown on November 21, 2008, 12:16:37 PM
I've seen some vids of the VG and the ball looks great. Plus Machuga's reaction was awesome as well but he's bowling on PBA patterns that have super clean backends!
Have you drilled your VG yet?
Let me know what you think of the ball when you get a chance to use it. The VG is on my list of bowling balls to buy.
Post by: LordWalrus on November 21, 2008, 12:26:03 PM
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Post by: Dan Belcher on November 21, 2008, 01:32:53 PM
quote:I tried both the other night in a Demo Day. The Pin Slasher was about as strong as my Dimension, just a few feet longer and much more angular. The Striking Motion was unimpressive. It really labored to ever turn the corner. Everybody who threw it was leaving 10 pins galore with it.
Well just talked with the Pro shop about Striking motion or Pin Slasher, both sound more like what i am looking for versus an oiler.
Post by: jkiser01 on November 21, 2008, 01:38:51 PM
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Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on November 21, 2008, 01:56:33 PM
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Post by: LaneHammer20 on November 21, 2008, 04:47:09 PM
This will be a ball that I pack around at a unpolished surface for when I find some soup.
I also hope this replaces my dimension, because I have a love, hate relationship with that ball. Drill being culprit, being that I got it used and it has a pin down layout. My rlease doesn't favor those. they burn up to easy.
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Post by: ryno4000 on November 21, 2008, 05:11:38 PM
The ball is absolutely amazing!!! It seemed to read the lane sooner than my dimension, but the backend on the ball is by far stronger than the dimension. I was roughly 7 boards farther left with my feet with the Virtual Gravity.
It is really hard to explain. I was able to move as far left as I wanted and had no problem with carry especially with an oiler ball. I was also amazed to see that if i hit too much friction outside it still came back, left flat 10 on one of the shots.
Also the ball seems to help you if you miss-hit the ball at the bottom of the swing. It still comes up and hits pretty hard. This ball keeps the pins low which is something I haven't seen out of many new releases from any company lately
Post by: Mr Straight Ball on November 21, 2008, 08:07:00 PM
When you put the pin and mass bias in a position that they spin over top of one another ... the ball will labor!
From the short description given of the VG, the ball was laboring and the other thing that hit me is that the ball was OOB. Notice the one Chuga had in hand
(1) The light reflected off of the cover (as in it wasn't as dull as the promo picture). Sounds like there was not enough volume to allow the ball to retain it's energy
(2) The pin and Key are not positioned to spin over top of one another.
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Post by: northface28 on November 22, 2008, 12:59:03 AM
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I'll share what a higher up once informed me...
When you put the pin and mass bias in a position that they spin over top of one another ... the ball will labor!
From the short description given of the VG, the ball was laboring and the other thing that hit me is that the ball was OOB. Notice the one Chuga had in hand
(1) The light reflected off of the cover (as in it wasn't as dull as the promo picture). Sounds like there was not enough volume to allow the ball to retain it's energy
(2) The pin and Key are not positioned to spin over top of one another.
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In other words, do you mean, "stacked"? Anyway yy VG hardly labors at all, I get continuation from 6th arrow.
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Post by: tizzle on November 22, 2008, 07:31:31 AM