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tennispro11_7

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looking for surface advice
« on: January 23, 2009, 12:49:15 AM »
Hello, i have been a long time lurker but haven't posted much.

I just purchased a virtual gravity with and had it drilled very strong.  I am a low/medium speed bowler with low revs.  Average is ~200.

I bowl at a house that is known for having oily lanes.  Do you think I should leave the 4000 surface or get it polished?  I obviously don't generate a lot of revs/hook on my own, so i'm looking to get the most out of this ball.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks, Adam
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Nicanor

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Re: looking for surface advice
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2009, 09:12:08 AM »
I recommend throwing it in box condition first.  I have two VGs and both are currently at 2000 Ablaron, but I have pretty good ball speed.  


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Re: looking for surface advice
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2009, 09:27:58 AM »
I should add that I bowled with it last night, and although I did bowl very well, the reaction I was getting was almost exactly the same as my action max.  If possible, I'd like to get a little stronger at the end
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Re: looking for surface advice
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2009, 09:34:01 AM »
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I recommend throwing it in box condition first. I have two VGs and both are currently at 2000 Ablaron, but I have pretty good ball speed.  


I second this.  I have my Virtual at 2000 as well and I am a medium speed / medium rev. guy.  At 4000 it was a decent house shot ball but I was really looking for it to be my go-to ball on longer oil.  It is.

If you really want to polish it I strongly recommend taking the base finish down to 1000 or 2000 first.  Remember, the final polished surface is influenced strongly by the base surface and a 4000 surface polished IMO is very squirty.
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Re: looking for surface advice
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2009, 09:36:38 AM »
Always leave the ball as you get ( at first), only you can tell if you need more surface or less. You should give it more than a few games to determine whats best
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tennispro11_7

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Re: looking for surface advice
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2009, 09:42:38 AM »
the guy who drills my stuff understands my game pretty well and he said when he gave me the ball that he expected I'd be back in a few weeks to have it taken down to 1000.  I am just looking for all the advice I can get, and I was also hoping that someone could estimate what kind of reaction change i'd be looking at if I did make the change.

thanks a lot for the replies so far.  The people on this forum are extremely helpful.
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Re: looking for surface advice
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2009, 09:47:36 AM »
For med-heavy oil with your speed and rev rate, polish would probably not work.  It would work if the back ends were very clean, but I don't think thats the direction you want to go in.

I would try 2000 Ablaron first and ask your pro shop to sand the ball to 2000 Ablaron unless you have the pads and the knowledge.  If that still isn't enough, take it down to 1000, but I would take it down one step at a time.

I find though that when I incrrrease my rev rate with the VG, carry is tremendously better.  I read that your speed is slow and your rev rate is limited, but I think this is one of those balls that like to be reved up a little regardless of speed.  Now thats just my opiniion and I'm sure others have had luck even with limited rev rate.


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Re: looking for surface advice
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2009, 10:19:09 AM »
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If possible, I'd like to get a little stronger at the end  


This is going to be tough.  For a slower speed / lower revs. bowler I don't see you getting much more from a Virtual than 4000 (box).  

Think of it this way, the more surface you put on the ball (2000,1000,500,etc.) the earlier it will want to read the pattern and the smoother the backend reaction will be.  More surface will possibly give you more overall hook but will it will lessen the backend reaction.  Polishing the ball will give you more length and less overall hook.  However, a polished ball should give you a slightly more angular reaction in the backend.

I think you kind of answered your own question by saying that the guy who drills for you knows your game.  If he feels you may need more surface then I'd listen to him.  We are all just giving you our educated guesses based on your input, he is in the best position to give you advise.
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Re: looking for surface advice
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2009, 11:27:58 AM »
I think finer than 4k abralon would be the right way, I tried 2k abralon and snake oil polish ball still hooked alot but did not carry well.

I am still fighting with this ball trying to dial it in, not giving up yet going to try rough buff on 1k abralon next. I see the potential of the ball, right now went back to 4k abby for practice reasons.



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If possible, I'd like to get a little stronger at the end  


This is going to be tough.  For a slower speed / lower revs. bowler I don't see you getting much more from a Virtual than 4000 (box).  

Think of it this way, the more surface you put on the ball (2000,1000,500,etc.) the earlier it will want to read the pattern and the smoother the backend reaction will be.  More surface will possibly give you more overall hook but will it will lessen the backend reaction.  Polishing the ball will give you more length and less overall hook.  However, a polished ball should give you a slightly more angular reaction in the backend.

I think you kind of answered your own question by saying that the guy who drills for you knows your game.  If he feels you may need more surface then I'd listen to him.  We are all just giving you our educated guesses based on your input, he is in the best position to give you advise.
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