Author Topic: Set me up! Returning to Storm . . (Read 3895 times)

HamPster · « **on:** February 21, 2007, 10:26:40 PM »

After a long debate with myself and a few words from my pro shop guy . . I've decided to start drilling Storm again. Brunswick's last couple years worth of balls just don't fit my game anymore, it's really been hit and miss, the only few real successes being the Classic Zone, Red Zone, and Smokin Inferno, the more long and strong balls that they have. Storm's got a lot of newer balls with the reaction I'm looking for, but I'm still a little wary of Reactor. I have a few older balls I could order . .

Dark Thunder
Dark Thunder Pearl
Atomic Charge
Recharge

New ones I'm interested in:

Shift
Special Agent
Pyro
Paradigm Domination
Spit Fire

Need some stuff for my PBA Experience league this summer, but I also want to be able to use them for regular league too. Have one short dry pattern, one medium-medium pattern, and one that's all over the place. I need an oiler though, something that'll cut through on the backend, a first out of the bag ball (my 4.5 x 4.5 Red Zone is the one I use 90% of the time, and I can use it everywhere all night as long as the backends don't get too sloppy), and something for drier (my Smokin works very well as it's smooth, but strong). Suggest me some stuff here!
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stopncrank · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2007, 07:14:25 AM »

hampster, welcome back! as far as the domination goes, if you don't like the reactor cover, then shy away from the domination. i'd go with a regular paradigm. i have two of them and one thing i tell anyone is that they are very versitile. especially for a reactive pearl. very clean through the fronts, but where i put the rad on each ball gives me two totally different reactions. the passion will give you a little earlier roll then the paradigms in oil, but if you like your agent then definitely take a look at the special agent, cause that ball is a killer. glad to have you back hampster!
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grizfan · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2007, 07:22:43 AM »

I like you have been throwing Brunswick pretty much the last few years also and I just picked up a Domination to replace my Smokin that is dying. Last night I threw it for the first time and let me say it is a very strong ball. At the same time though, I can control the breakpoint with hand and speed adjustments. If you liked the Smokin, I would suggest the Domination. I too am looking at the Pyro for my next Storm purchase.

Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2007, 07:48:38 AM »

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if you don't like the reactor cover, then shy away from the domination. i'd go with a regular paradigm.

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If you liked the Smokin, I would suggest the Domination.

So that's one NO and one YES for the Domination.
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HamPster · « **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2007, 07:53:40 AM »

Yeah, I'm looking hard at the Domination. Also looking at a T-Road Pearl, but if I get that, a Domination, and a Shift, that'll be three pearls to one solid . . I doubt I'll be throwing the Red Zone much anymore unless the shot is there for it. However, I know that those three balls I just mentioned are quite a bit different from each other. I also think that the Special Agent will be my first out of the bag for a while. It's too strong to throw the way I normally like to throw it, but as long as it reacts like it did from straight up 9 with not much hand, I could play that all day. The highest game of my practice session was from that line (couldn't disable scoring, or I would have, lol).

My pro shop guy is doing sort of a have-a-ball promotion for the PBA league, of Storm and Roto stuff, so I'm going to get either a Domination or a Shift (for $165 drilled . .) when it starts at the beginning of May, but I still need a benchmark pearl, which will probably be the T-Road, and another solid, but I haven't decided if I want a lower end one, or get another Special Agent, drill it weaker and polish it.
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Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2007, 08:09:19 AM »

I am currently using the Thunderstruck Solid as a benchmark. I would say I use it 80 - 90% of the time (mainly because I have used that ball more). The only problem is that I too am rebuilding a new arsenal so it's either switch to the Special Agent or start getting creative with the Thunderstruck. Luckily, the ball totally rocks. Going to the Special Agent is like getting a special treat but the Thunderstruck seems to cover most of my needs.

Of course my style may be totally different from yours but I am sure you know which one to try next. I know there was one guy on here who had a few different Special Agents set up differently and there was someone else who had a two Thunderstruck Solid arsenal.

The T-Road is supposed to be nice and it will have the pearl version of the SA's coverstock and the thunder core... That has to be a good thing.
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HamPster · « **Reply #21 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:04:15 AM »

I prefer staying slower and around 3rd arrow out to 8 or so. Slower speed and medium revs make me project it well, but it's a good match because I throw it soft enough to get it to start up and keep coming on the backend, but project it well enough to keep it from burning up early. I don't like taking hand out of it, cause that usually means flat hits, but with the SA, I was the most comfortable that I've been in a long time last night, and I spent the last 5 or 6 games trying to score to put a little bit of pressure on myself to see if I could keep throwing it well. I have a friend with the Thunderstruck solid, and it's almost a bit to angular for what I'm looking for. Oh well, haven't decided what I'm going to do yet!
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Overdose, lethal metal level in my blood, it freely flows, embrace the pain, crush the suffering and cleanse it with the river surging through your veins.

Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:08:29 AM »

Yeah it's tough to say... All the balls you mentioned in your original post are good balls so you probably can't go wrong with any. Oh and if you think the Thunderstruck is a bit too angular you may check into that Dark Thunder like you said.
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HamPster · « **Reply #23 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:51:37 AM »

Good points . . I think I will look into a Pyro. I DO want something angular too, but not for a benchmark solid. The Pyro might work for my benchmark solid spot, even though it's a particle pearl. I really don't need anything lower end, because if it's too dry for me to use something reactive, I'll be using plastic anyway. I want something pearl that hooks about the same amount as the Special Agent though, because if the backends are firm enough for me to use something pearl, I'd rather do that to keep from burning up my track too quickly.

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Seriously...If the Thunderstruck Solid looks too angular for you then Skip The T-Road for now...The Pyro sounds like a Perfect fit for what you are looking for. Clean through the heads earlier midlane roll and a nice strong readable arc on the back..Plus it handles the carry down whereas a T-Road and Domination may get squirelly on sloppy backs.

Then you will have a dull solid with your Special which will handle your heavy stuff and a very versitile Pearl (Pyro) with a light load particle. This should do you good on any medium condition out there. I seriously think that the Domination and Paradigm and the Shift may be more ball than you are looking for in a compliment to your Special...The Pyro Hooks Plenty..Then you win some money and try out one of the other balls.

Now if your not happy with your Special then I would look at a Shift or Paradigm. However a Pyro would still be great compliment to any Strong ball you purchase.

Read the reviews fro the Pyro on this site.

And as always run this by your Pro-shop folk.

Edited on 2/23/2007 11:23 AM

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bowlingmaniac017 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:58:58 AM »

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Good points . . I think I will look into a Pyro. I DO want something angular too, but not for a benchmark solid. The Pyro might work for my benchmark solid spot, even though it's a particle pearl. I really don't need anything lower end, because if it's too dry for me to use something reactive, I'll be using plastic anyway. I want something pearl that hooks about the same amount as the Special Agent though, because if the backends are firm enough for me to use something pearl, I'd rather do that to keep from burning up my track too quickly.

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Seriously...If the Thunderstruck Solid looks too angular for you then Skip The T-Road for now...The Pyro sounds like a Perfect fit for what you are looking for. Clean through the heads earlier midlane roll and a nice strong readable arc on the back..Plus it handles the carry down whereas a T-Road and Domination may get squirelly on sloppy backs.

Then you will have a dull solid with your Special which will handle your heavy stuff and a very versitile Pearl (Pyro) with a light load particle. This should do you good on any medium condition out there. I seriously think that the Domination and Paradigm and the Shift may be more ball than you are looking for in a compliment to your Special...The Pyro Hooks Plenty..Then you win some money and try out one of the other balls.

Now if your not happy with your Special then I would look at a Shift or Paradigm. However a Pyro would still be great compliment to any Strong ball you purchase.

Read the reviews fro the Pyro on this site.

And as always run this by your Pro-shop folk.

Edited on 2/23/2007 11:23 AM

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Overdose, lethal metal level in my blood, it freely flows, embrace the pain, crush the suffering and cleanse it with the river surging through your veins.

Just get an Agent and drill it the same way as your Special Agent. I have mine at 3 3/8 by 3 3/8 and I can use the Agent and when the lanes get tighter I pull out my Special for a few games before they get a little drier then I just move inside and throw my Agent again.
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JessN16 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:23:33 PM »

Since this discussion has a lot of Thunderstruck v. Dark Thunder mention in it, let me note that those are two different coverstocks. The Dark Thunder and Dark Thunder Pearl wear Monsoon (and Monsoon Pearl) as their coverstock.

Jess

HamPster · « **Reply #26 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:38:05 PM »

Yeah . . exactly! I was about the biggest fan of Monsoon that there was. It was awesome to drill (it cut about as clean as you could ask for) and it had a roll to it that I absolutely loved. It produced the heaviest roll that Storm ever had, but retained that Storm look and feel on the lanes, resulting in, for me, the hardest hitting, most versatile balls they've made.
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Overdose, lethal metal level in my blood, it freely flows, embrace the pain, crush the suffering and cleanse it with the river surging through your veins.

stopncrank · « **Reply #27 on:** February 24, 2007, 12:28:39 PM »

hampster, don't you just love picking new stuff?!! that has become one of the hardest things to do in our great sport now! but its a great feeling when you drill that new piece, amd it's exactly what you wanted. i wasn't a big fan of monsoon. i had the recharge, and it was a great ball, but i never could get the right surface on it. it was too smooth when i sanded it, and too bouncy when i hit the dry. i want to say though that it was probably core more that cover that i didn't match too. as far as the domination goes, i was gonna get one about a month ago, but my driller of 15 years said uh, no! i have two regular paradigms, and get massive reaction out of both, and he said the domination would be about a foot longer, and 3-5 board more on the back! well, i am already inside of 15, usually about 17 to a breakpoint of 6 on the back, in the first game of league! but, thats me, it might just be a home run for you.
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JBracer2 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 24, 2007, 09:27:38 PM »

I will say the pyro is a great ball! For me I have to have some friction to throw it. The T-road is a stronger ball for me very strong on the back. Just got a Shift haven thrown it enough to give a report. I do have some Brunswick stuff if I want early roll to burn some energy.
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strikestriketapped · « **Reply #29 on:** February 24, 2007, 10:22:43 PM »

Why is everyone overlooking the Spit Fire? Easily one of the better Storm balls.
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Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #30 on:** February 26, 2007, 06:37:41 AM »

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Since this discussion has a lot of Thunderstruck v. Dark Thunder mention in it, let me note that those are two different coverstocks. The Dark Thunder and Dark Thunder Pearl wear Monsoon (and Monsoon Pearl) as their coverstock.

Yeah and the Monsoon on the Dark Thunder is supposed to be "reformulated" to handle Medium-Heavy oil. I am not sure what that means compared to the original Monsoon but I can say that the DT is very nice.
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