Author Topic: Next Storm High End (Read 4768 times)

BallsDeep · « **on:** July 05, 2007, 10:01:43 AM »

Has there been any word as to when the next storm high end ball will be released and any idea as to the specs. It seems like it is a fair bet that it will be a sanded solid cover. Its been a while since they have had a good solid cover ball. The Passion, and even before that with the Trifecta and Vertigo there were mixed reviews. The last great sanded high end ball they released was the reloaded in my opinion and that was pearl particle. I can't remember their last quality solid reactive. There have been numerous positive reviews of the Special Agent, but I'd love to see something with an asymetrical core. It is virtually impossible to make an angular solid sanded reactive with a symmetrical core.
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Mike Austin · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2007, 06:03:57 PM »

Lots of people talking about the Secret Agent, T Road Solid is coming, and another ball too, can't remember. Also, I heard the next Paradigm line ball will be the Clutch, but don't know anything else.
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BallsDeep · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:29:58 PM »

Yeah, there was a previous post with that name listed, but to my knowledge there hasn't been any info as to ball composition or release date.
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Jock · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2007, 02:48:41 AM »

Where've you guys been?

The next Storm balls are the Secret Agent, T_Road Solid, Surefire and Clutch.

You could call at least one of these balls "high end".

The details are all over Internet.

The specs, at least for the first three balls named, have been up on the Storm site for a while now.

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LowRG · « **Reply #4 on:** July 06, 2007, 07:14:11 AM »

The Clutch is next in the Premier Line. Unless things have changed, no one here knows anything but the name. Released for the fall season.

Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #5 on:** July 06, 2007, 07:24:07 AM »

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Wouldn't a Secret Agent be considered a "High End" Ball?

I would consider that a high end ball, yeah.
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BallsDeep · « **Reply #6 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:56:25 AM »

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Where've you guys been?

The next Storm balls are the Secret Agent, T_Road Solid, Surefire and Clutch.

You could call at least one of these balls "high end".

The details are all over Internet.

The specs, at least for the first three balls named, have been up on the Storm site for a while now.

Seek and ye shall find.
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I'm talking about the clutch or so it may be called, I like everyone else know about the secret agent, T-Road Solid, and the Surefire. The only one of these balls that could even be considered high end is the Secret Agent, as it is at the same price point as the X Factors used to be or there about. If I was talking about the Surefire, I would have used the term midline. If I was talking about the T-Road Solid, I would have used the term low end. Too many people think that these terms are some how degrading to a bowling ball and get all pissy. Just because a ball is deemed low end doesn't mean that it is a bad ball or cannot perform up to the standards of the high end, it just means that it is at a lesser price point.

So, does anyone have any info as to when the CLUTCH (aka the next ball in the Shift series) is going to come out, or any details as to what the cover/core combination is.

Now for the individual that says that there are no angular solid sanded balls. This argument is relative. Yes there are no sanded balls that will get through the heads and turn up on the backend like a polished pearl, but there are certain sanded balls that will retain a greater ammount of energy and release this energy on the backend. The Awesome Hook from Morich is a decent example. The ball hooks alot, but for a sanded ball, it gets down the lane extremely well and has a great deal of backend. The core of the ball has dual flip caps which elongates the core design and allows the core to maintain tilt and rotation longer than a core without such flip caps. Moreover, the relative strength of the core, being the strongest in bowling lets the ball really motor on the backend. I have yet to see a symmetrical core ball do anything similar on the backend.
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n00dlejester · « **Reply #7 on:** July 07, 2007, 09:59:19 AM »

Check out the video for this ball...this is pretty angular for a solid. And so is the Black Widow and No Mercy.

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/4164/Roto_Grip_Odyssey_Bowling_Ball.htm
http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/3905/Hammer_No_Mercy_Bowling_Ball.htm
http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/3212/Hammer_Black_Widow_Bowling_Ball.htm

BallsDeep · « **Reply #8 on:** July 07, 2007, 01:37:58 PM »

Those are rather angular and all of them are asyms. Moreover, none of them are storm. Still no word on the "clutch".
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Next Level PS · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2007, 04:30:37 PM »

Ballsdeep, it sounds like you like that Domination a lot?
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BallsDeep · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2007, 08:12:52 PM »

Yeah that domination is a beast. Its so strong on the backend that it outhooks everything else that I have on medium. I think that I'll be in the shop tomorrow by the way.
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NJStroker · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2007, 10:30:58 AM »

Hey Ballsdeep, my passion is my favorite ball out of my whole arsenal. Always the first ball thrown and out of my bag. Why didn't u like it.

BallsDeep · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2007, 12:41:44 PM »

Thats the one that I never bought. From what I saw out of it, the ball didn't work for a lot of people. Factor in the cracking problems, and that ball wouldn't be something that I would try. The others, ie the vertigo and trifecta, I had, loved the reaction but never could get to carry on a consistent basis. I think that both of those balls could have benefitted from a longer cover. Look at the Ultimate Inferno for instance, the Activator Solid, for a solid high end cover, was quite long. Yet they paired it with a very strong core and had a very successful ball. The Vertigo seemed to only work when the pattern was heavy up front and had prestine backends, to allow the ball to get down the lane and respond on the backend.

The R2S solid with the Shape Lock or the paradigm block I think has the potential to respond more consistently on the backend and be an overall great heavy oil ball. Something that will respond on heavy oil no matter what the condition of the backends.
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Mr Straight Ball · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:08:15 PM »

When they invent a ball that hooks without backends, please let me know. The basic laws of physic require some level of friction for the ball to change directions.

We cannot have it all as bowlers. A solid SANDED that hooks like a Domination. The ball is sanded because the fronts are so slick a Domination would skid forever. And surface goes hand and hand with "smoothing" out the reaction. i.e. backs are flying, slightly scuff your ball and it's magically smoother.

Balls have limitations and it's our job as a bowler to recognize the strengths and weaknesses of our arsenal so that we use each ball at the right time. Do like the urethane days and carry two balls around, one semi-dull and one semi-polished ball.
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BallsDeep · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:58:40 PM »

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When they invent a ball that hooks without backends, please let me know. The basic laws of physic require some level of friction for the ball to change directions.

We cannot have it all as bowlers. A solid SANDED that hooks like a Domination. The ball is sanded because the fronts are so slick a Domination would skid forever. And surface goes hand and hand with "smoothing" out the reaction. i.e. backs are flying, slightly scuff your ball and it's magically smoother.

Balls have limitations and it's our job as a bowler to recognize the strengths and weaknesses of our arsenal so that we use each ball at the right time. Do like the urethane days and carry two balls around, one semi-dull and one semi-polished ball.
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As I've already said, the issue is relative. Yes there cannot be a solid sanded ball that will backend like a domination on medium oil. It is equally true however that there are certain solid sanded pieces that can do on heavy something close to what a domination can do on medium. As I've already mentioned, the Awesome hook was the type of ball that could perform like that.

Moreover, when I say no matter the conditions of the backends, I'm not talking about a mythical lane condition where they put a front end volume of oil throught the pin deck. I'm talking about a legitimate degree of carrydown. An asymetrical solid sanded piece will handle this condition better than something like the special agent.

As surface grit goes down the reaction occurs earlier and more evenly. THAT DOES NOT MEAN that a solid sanded ball has to start hooking at the arrows and stay even rolling through the pins. I will reiterate, it is all relative.
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